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Belinda1969
08-05-2010, 2:20 PM
Another mystery Coot (Coote)
William was the son of Joseph Coot & Elizabeth Ginger of Flamstead
William was born 6th April 1878 Hemel Hempstead
1881 & 1891 Living in Flamstead
What happened to him after then? Searched n Searched but cannot find anything else on him
His siblings were Lizzie,Frederick,Sarah,George,Arthur & Ernest
Have all the information on the rest of the family so would be nice to have this completed (he probably right under my nose but i cannot find him)

Any help or guidance would be good

Thanks
Belinda

bibliojunkie
08-05-2010, 4:11 PM
I presume the William Coote, parents Joseph and Elisabeth Coote, on the CWGC site is not yours. He was killed in 1915 aged 27 so born c1888 not 1878.

Ali

Belinda1969
08-05-2010, 4:28 PM
Hi Ali

No im afraid that isnt him,he seems a mystery to me,all the rest of the family i found but him grrr!!!
Thanks though :-)

Belinda

colashbury
08-05-2010, 4:44 PM
Hi Belinda. Unusual name and thats why its hard to believe that there were another living in that area. Have found a William 48 years of age living in Flamstead but with another set of children.
Susan Wife 43
William 20
James 18
Charles 13
Caroline 8
Will keep lookin.......Colin

colashbury
08-05-2010, 4:54 PM
Intersting one I found living at Pye Corner Flamstead on the 1901 census was:-
Joseph 53
Mary 46
Ernest 23
Charles H 20
Bertrum 18
Caroline 14
Andrew 12
Daisy 10
Mabel 8
Walter H 6
Herbert W 2
Bloody exhausted writin these out never mind lookin after em. They had some kids in them there days.
Anyway, living next door is James Ginger 59.............................Colin

colashbury
08-05-2010, 5:00 PM
Just noticed that the William found on 1st post also lived in Pye corner obviously in another property.
He lived a couple of doors away from:-
John Ginger 34
Rebecca 30
Martha 10
Frederick 8
George 6
William 4
Emma 1..............................Colin

colashbury
08-05-2010, 5:12 PM
Just had a look at the 1891 and found him aged 3 with family. Presume that their next door neighbours Thomas, Elizabeth and family coot where family......

Belinda1969
08-05-2010, 5:20 PM
wow Colin you have been busy finding them for me :-)

Yes there sure was alot of Coote's around Flamstead and they are all fitting in my tree,they certainly did have alot of children (rather them than me) my 3 are bad enough :-)

Shall write all your research down

Thankyou your a star!!

Belinda

Jan1954
08-05-2010, 5:27 PM
Belinda,

If you have not done so already, have a look at the Hertfordshire Genealogy website (hertfordshire-genealogy.co.uk/home.htm - put www. in front). In the panel at the left on the home page is an index for both places and names.

The Flamstead link has photographs and the name COOTE (with an 'E') relating to Flamstead has a query listed - with answers.

colashbury
08-05-2010, 5:50 PM
Hi again Belinda. Sorry said 1891 when should have said 81.
The info was:-
Thomas 34
Elizabeth 33
Jane 11
William 8
Arthur 5
Ernest 3
Next door
Joseph 33
Elizabeth 25
Earnest 4
William 3
Frederick 1
All living at London Road Flamstead...........Colin

colashbury
08-05-2010, 5:56 PM
By 1891 Thomas and Elizabet had another 3
Herbert 8
Nellie 5
Percy 2
Joseph and Elizabeth had another 4
Sarah 9
George 8
Arthur 6
Earnest 2
Please stop me if yer have this info already..................................Colin

Belinda1969
08-05-2010, 5:59 PM
Hi Jan

Yes i have seen that before,i also keep check on there just incase anyone does put anymore Coote queries on....Shall be visiting Flamstead again when the weather decides to warm up!!

Belinda

Belinda1969
08-05-2010, 6:11 PM
Colin

Just looked through and yes i have got that information im afraid,its William who i was struggling with 1878

The trouble with the Coote's they all loved to name people after one another so makes it more difficult lol

Belinda

colashbury
08-05-2010, 6:11 PM
Sorry child of Joseph and Elizabeth 1881 was Emma 4 not Earnest....

colashbury
08-05-2010, 6:15 PM
Only William found for that birth year was in London as a vistor to a John Bolt. Does that mean anything to you...........Colin

Belinda1969
08-05-2010, 6:24 PM
Colin

There was a William Coot Born 1878 Hemel Hempstead....
1881 was with his parents Joseph and Elizabeth Source Citation: Class: RG11; Piece: 1445; Folio: 79; Page: 13
1891 was with parents....Source Citation: Class: RG12; Piece: 1125; Folio 64; Page 10

Then thats all i had on him

Belinda

colashbury
08-05-2010, 6:42 PM
Sorry Belinda. Should have said only one found on the 1901 census was a William aged 23 with a Family headed by John Bolt, does Mr Bolt figure anywhere in the family.

Belinda1969
08-05-2010, 6:51 PM
lol Colin i cant find him in 1901 so your doing better than me

Belinda

colashbury
08-05-2010, 6:56 PM
Found a William Coot death in 1918 in WW2 was in a unit in North Hants. Is that the same area for Hemel Hemstead.................Colin

Belinda1969
08-05-2010, 7:06 PM
I dont think it is the same area Colin...Belinda

colashbury
08-05-2010, 7:12 PM
Did he marry....

Belinda1969
08-05-2010, 7:16 PM
I cant find any marriage for him,looked on 1911 also cannot find him,spelt the Coot surname in lots different ways but still nothing

bibliojunkie
08-05-2010, 11:04 PM
Blimey Belinda, I don't envy you trying to unravel all them Coot(e)s - is that the only surname in Flamstead? :) When searching earlier in 1911 I became totally confused. Are William's birth details from a cert or parish records? I don't suppose he had a middle name........

BTW, the WW1 death Colin found is a William Coote aged 38, son of William and Susan Coote of guess where.

Ali

colashbury
09-05-2010, 5:49 AM
Hi Ali. There were 2 William Coots who died that year. A William Coot and a William Coote. Infact , there were a great deal of Coots or Cootes who died just in 1918 alone. .....
Only William marriage found in that area was to a Betty Copcutt, but Williams Father was George.
Thought I had found him then realised that I was 10 years out.
William 34
Emma 32
Wilfred 7
Lily 4
Living with Alfred, Father to one of em. 73 Widower......................Colin

colashbury
09-05-2010, 6:21 AM
At least thats one death record for you if yer aint got it. Could always look up his Army medal card as well. Another death found was a William H Coot. Born 1851 died 1932 Hemel Hemstead aged 81. 3A-1377
Our William seems to have gone missing though. Running out of ideas. Cant find him on a census report. No death record and no marriage..........Colin

Belinda1969
09-05-2010, 8:08 AM
I tell ya i been searching my Coote's for 2years and they all mostly come from Flamstead,Royston,Barrington,Cambridge etc
Its been fun finding them but they all keep having the same names which doesnt make life easy in tracing them,yes i agree i think Flamstead must have gone *oh no not another Coot* lol..There is just few missing links in my family tree hence why ive put them on the forum as i searched n searched but cannot find them,so im afraid there will be some more Coot,Coote posting going on soon
Colin Thankyou for all your help yesterday,we searched and searched didnt we but couldnt find him,where did he go lol
Shall try again today

Belinda

colashbury
09-05-2010, 9:11 AM
Yer think Ime all out. The only one found born 1878 on the 1901 census was the lodger in London, with Mr Bolt. By the looks of it though, he was born that way as well. Tried 4 or 5 sites and found nowt else. Only other answer me thinks is Armed Forces....On sayin that, I have an ancestor that was born 1834, cant find him in any census reports. Maybe 1871 but unsure of that one yet. Found him on 2 marriage certificates but thats it. Cant even find my Mothers whole family on the 1911 census so some are missin somewheres. Good luck with the rest of your research anywhos and hopefully William will pop up somewhere......Colin

Belinda1969
09-05-2010, 10:21 AM
Thankyou for all your help though Colin,was much appreciated...Belinda :-)

colashbury
09-05-2010, 10:34 AM
Your welcome. Anything else, dont hesitate to ask. Hopefully someone will come along with a William on the 1911 census and all will be answered. Unfortunately not accessible to me so cant have a look......Speak soon.......Colin

Belinda1969
09-05-2010, 10:43 AM
Looked on 1911 Colin,he wasnt there,shall put another Coote mystery posting on now as i have plenty lol...Belinda

colashbury
09-05-2010, 10:52 AM
Good stuff. Will av a lookand see if I can find....

Belinda1969
13-06-2010, 10:31 AM
Right im definately all searched out in trying to find William,i gone over all the obvious,spelt his surname in many ways but still nothing,grrrrr