Emma & Lizzie Coot 1877 Flamstead

[Belinda1969]

Hi
Looking for help with Emma & Lizzie Coot believe they was born 1877 Flamstead

Parents was Joseph Coot 1848 Flamstead and Elizabeth Ginger 1856 Flamstead

Emma was living in 1881 at London Road Friars Wash Flamstead (all i have on her)
Lizzie was living in 1891 at London Road Friars Wash Flamstead,i believe she then married Walter Brandon in 1922 (thats all i have on her)

There siblings were William 1878,Frederick 1879,Sarah 1882,George 1883,Arthur 1885 and Ernest 1888

Any help would be great

Thanks
Belinda

[Jan1954]

Hi
Looking for help with Emma & Lizzie Coot believe they was born 1877 Flamstead Could this be Emma?
Emma Ellen COOT, March quarter 1878, volume 3a, page 463

There is this possible one for Elizabeth.....

Mary Elizabeth COOT, September quarter 1878, volume 3a, page 460

Both Hemel Hempstead registration district.

Parents was Joseph Coot 1848 Flamstead The Hemel Hempstead registration dstrict covers Flamstead and the only Joseph Coot birth registration that I can see is: Joseph COOT, December quarter 1846, volume 6, page 531
and Elizabeth Ginger 1856 FlamsteadNope - cannot see her. The only Elizabeths are one in 1867, one in 1869 and another in 1873.


Emma was living in 1881 at London Road Friars Wash Flamstead (all i have on her)
Lizzie was living in 1891 at London Road Friars Wash Flamstead,i believe she then married Walter Brandon in 1922 (thats all i have on her)

There siblings were William 1878,Frederick 1879,Sarah 1882,George 1883,Arthur 1885 and Ernest 1888

Any help would be great

Thanks
BelindaI live not far from Flamstead and Friar's Wash so, if you can nail down the addresses, I can pop up there when my camera has been fixed and take some shots if you like.

[Belinda1969]

Hi Jan

I have only London Road Friars Wash as there Address,but i will try searching harder as would be very kind of you to take some pictures for me..I went to Flamstead last summer to some of the graves there to lay flowers,hoping to go back again in the summer as obviously ive now found more relatives around that area

[Gill Hart]

Nice to see Flamstead being mentioned!

I live in Flamstead so if there is anything that you would like checking/photographing, let me know.

Gill

[Gill Hart]

Found on the IGI (extracted records)
Emma Ellen COOT was born on Nov 23 1877 and bapt on Jan 20 1878 in Flamstead. Parents were Frederick and Jane COOT
Sarah COOT was bapt Mar 17 1882 in Flamstead - parents were Joseph and Elizabeth COOT

Looking at the 1881 and 1891 censuses, I think Emma and Elizabeth may be the same person. In 1881, there is an Emma E. aged 4 with her parents Joseph and Elizabeth and siblings of William and Frederick. In 1891, there is a Lizzie aged 14 with the same family - siblings now include Sarah (9), George (8), Arthur (6), Ernest (2) as well as William (13) and Frederick (11). The family is living at Friars Wash.

In the 1901 Census, Elizabeth COOT (senior) is a widow living with her sons George (17), Arthur (16) and Ernest (14) at Pye Corner, Flamstead (no house number, from memory, don't think the houses have numbers even now). I haven't found Emma/Lizzie yet but I'll keep looking.

[RonOne]

Looks as though Emma may have been born before Joseph and Elizabeth married:

Births Sep 1876
GINGER Emma Elizabeth - Hemel Hempstead - Vol 3a - Page 437

Take your pick for William:

Births Jun 1878
Ginger William - H. Hempstead - Vol 3a - Page 463

Births Jun 1878
Coot William - H. Hempstead - Vol 3a - Page 463

Marriages Dec 1878
COOT Joseph - H. Hempstead - Vol 3a - Page 673
GINGER Elizabeth - H. Hempstead - Vol 3a - Page 673

(Source: Family search, pilot)
Groom's name: Joseph Coot
Groom's age: 30
Bride's name: Elizabeth Ginger
Bride's age: 25
Residence: Flamstead, Hertfordshire, England
Event place: Flamstead, Hertford, England
Event date: 1878
Groom's father's name: Uriah Coot
Father of bride's name: George Ginger
Batch number: M04697-3
Date range: 1837 - 1887
Record group: England-VR
Film number: 1537681
Collection: England Marriages 1700-1900

[RonOne]

(Source IGI)
EMMA ELIZABETH GINGER
Birth: 16 JUL 1876
Christening: 19 NOV 1876 - Flamstead, Hertford, England
Mother: ELIZABETH GINGER
No father listed.

[RonOne]

Apologies if you have these already:

(Source: Family search, pilot)
Name: Frederick
Residence: Flamstead, Hertfordshire, England
Christening date: 14 Dec 1879
Christening place: FLAMSTEAD, HERTFORD, ENGLAND
Birth date: 05 Nov 1879
Father's name: Joseph Coot
Mother's name: Elizabeth
Batch number: C04697-3
Date range: 1864 - 1892
Record group: England-VR
Film number: 1537681
Collection: England Baptisms 1700-1900

Name: Sarah
Residence: Flamstead, Hertfordshire, England
Christening date: 17 Mar 1882
Christening place: FLAMSTEAD, HERTFORD, ENGLAND
Father's name: Joseph Coot
Mother's name: Elizabeth
Batch number: C04697-3
Date range: 1864 - 1892
Record group: England-VR
Film number: 1537681
Collection: England Baptisms 1700-1900

Name: George
Residence: Flamstead, Hertfordshire, England
Christening date: 18 Nov 1883
Christening place: FLAMSTEAD, HERTFORD, ENGLAND
Birth date: 24 Aug 1883
Father's name: Joseph Coote
Mother's name: Elizabeth
Batch number: C04697-3
Date range: 1864 - 1892
Record group: England-VR
Film number: 1537681
Collection: England Baptisms 1700-1900

Name: Arthur
Residence: Flamstead, Hertfordshire, England
Christening date: 23 Aug 1885
Christening place: FLAMSTEAD, HERTFORD, ENGLAND
Father's name: Joseph Coot
Mother's name: Elizabeth
Batch number: C04697-3
Date range: 1864 - 1892
Record group: England-VR
Film number: 1537681
Collection: England Baptisms 1700-1900

Name: Ernest
Residence: Flamstead, Hertfordshire, England
Christening date: 04 Nov 1888
Christening place: FLAMSTEAD, HERTFORD, ENGLAND
Father's name: Joseph Coot
Mother's name: Elizabeth
Batch number: C04697-3
Date range: 1864 - 1892
Record group: England-VR
Film number: 1537681
Collection: England Baptisms 1700-1900

[RonOne]

(source Family search, pilot)
Name: William
Residence: Flamstead, Hertfordshire, England
Christening date: 11 Aug 1878
Christening place: FLAMSTEAD, HERTFORD, ENGLAND
Birth date: 06 Apr 1878
Mother's name: Elizabeth Ginger
Batch number: C04697-3
Date range: 1864 - 1892
Record group: England-VR
Film number: 1537681
Collection: England Baptisms 1700-1900

[Belinda1969]

Hi Ronone

Thankyou so very much for that information thats why i couldnt find her under Emma Coote,n the birth n baptism dates some of those i hadnt got so thankyou

Belinda

[Belinda1969]

Hi Gill

Alot of my Coote family came from Flamstead,the address i have are 50 London Road Friars Wash,Chequers Hill,George Street Markyate,Evan Wood? Thats all i can make out at the moment,i did visit Flamstead last summer and thought what a lovely place it is,hoping to return again this year,i havent any pictures of Flamstead so thankyou for your kind offer much appreciated would be nice to know if those streets are still there? I believe there are still Coote's living in Flamstead as some of the graves i saw last year were pretty recent ones

Belinda

[RonOne]

Hi Belinda

Possible birth and christenings for Joseph and siblings (All baptised same day)

Name: Joseph Coot
Residence: Flamstead, Hertfordshire, England
Christening date: 20 Feb 1859
Christening place: Flamstead, Hertford, England
Birth date: 19 Aug 1848
Father's name: Uriah Coot
Mother's name: Ann
Batch number: C04697-2
Date range: 1625 - 1864
Record group: England-VR
Film number: 1040653
Collection: England Baptisms 1700-1900

Name: Elizabeth Coot
Residence: Flamstead, Hertfordshire, England
Christening date: 20 Feb 1859
Christening place: Flamstead, Hertford, England
Birth date: 07 Nov 1854
Father's name: Uriah Coot
Mother's name: Ann
Batch number: C04697-2
Date range: 1625 - 1864
Record group: England-VR
Film number: 1040653
Collection: England Baptisms 1700-1900

Name: Thomas Coot
Residence: Flamstead, Hertfordshire, England
Christening date: 20 Feb 1859
Christening place: Flamstead, Hertford, England
Birth date: Jun 1855
Father's name: Uriah Coot
Mother's name: Ann
Batch number: C04697-2
Date range: 1625 - 1864
Record group: England-VR
Film number: 1040653
Collection: England Baptisms 1700-1900

[Belinda1969]

Hi Ronone

Thanks again for that info,I didnt know they all got Baptised on the same day..Just quickly had look through and think maybe Emma got married in 1905 at Brentford Middlesex but doesnt state whom to,shall have to spend more time looking when i get the chance

Belinda

[RonOne]

Just quickly had look through and think maybe Emma got married in 1905 at Brentford Middlesex but doesnt state whom to,shall have to spend more time looking when i get the chance

Hi Belinda,

If this is the marriage in question:

Marriages Sep 1905
GINGER Emma Elizabeth - Brentford 3a 856

Probably not yours - it's more likely this Emma Elizabeth Ginger born 1876:

Births Jun 1876
GINGER Emma Elizabeth - Brentford 3a 72

[Belinda1969]

Oh yes i see what you mean there Ronone,as say i just quickly had a look through today,shall keep searching,as the Coote's are sure keeping me busy as there was so many of them lol