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Marion
08-01-2010, 12:09 PM
I have just received a marriage certificate for my 2x gt grandfather and his first wife, married in Llanelly in 1841. They were from the local area, but I can't read the place names which both seem to start with P.

If anyone can decipher the "residence" information that would be very helpful. As the participants are surnamed THOMAS and DAVIES, it might really help confirm their identities. I'm hoping a link to an image will appear below
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Thanks in advance, Marion

Jan1954
08-01-2010, 12:25 PM
Okay, I am the first to admit that I am not too good with Welsh place-names, but could the bottom one be Penycoed?

Sue Mackay
08-01-2010, 12:28 PM
The second one looks like Pen-y-Cae (though written without the hyphens). I wonder if the first one is meant to be Pembrey?

Red Dragon
08-01-2010, 2:48 PM
Does the certificate mention a parish that might help to narrow it down?

Marion
08-01-2010, 2:49 PM
Thanks to you both. I have emailed the GRO to ask if a better copy or transcription is possible. I'm pretty sure both parties were born in or near Llanelli, so these might be very local names.

Marion

Marion
08-01-2010, 2:52 PM
The marriage took place in the Parish church of Llanelly

Thanks, Marion

Carmy
08-01-2010, 4:53 PM
I agree one could be Penycae (Pen-y-Cae) or Penycoed (Pen-y-Coed).

Is it possible the top one is Pencraig?

All of these names are fairly normal house names in Wales.

Carmy
08-01-2010, 4:58 PM
Cae was a popular name around Llanelli. Why not take a browse through this map?
http://www.streetmap.co.uk/map.srf?x=250500&y=200400&z=3&sv=250500,200400&st=OSGrid&lu=N&tl=~&ar=y&bi=~&mapp=map.srf&searchp=ids.srf

Good luck.

Marion
08-01-2010, 5:12 PM
Thank you - if these are indeed house names I guess there's little chance of finding them. After their marriage this couple lived at Draenenbica, Bynea (spelt variously on different documents) which I am pretty sure is a house name, as when I visited the village I asked around and nobody had heard the name.

Marion

Marion
08-01-2010, 5:17 PM
I see there is a Pencoed close to Bynea, looks like a winner for the second place, thanks to all!!

Marion

Marion
08-01-2010, 5:44 PM
And Pend(d)ery seems to fit the first place - thankyou Carmy for the link to the map.

Marion

Carmy
27-01-2010, 2:14 AM
You're welcome, Marion. Just glad I could be of help to someone.