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angela 75
02-04-2005, 6:09 PM
i am doing research on my great grandparents.
great grand father ----john duncan caldwell
great grand mother -----margaret jane caldwell (Maiden Name is Quine)
my grand father ----alexander caldwell was born in everton in dec.8th 1902
my grand father went in to the army,
was stationed in the channel islands where he meet my grandmother
germaine lancien - they married in jersey in st.hellier parish on march 16 ,1925. and became Mrs.germaine caldwell.
my grand father moved alot in the army .
they settled down in liverpool
26 coaltart road lived there from 1930 til 1794.
i am trying to find info on john and margaret if any one can help.
i was told by my mother that they came from the isle of mann
that is what she remembers but i don't have any birth certificates
or marriage certificates.
also looking for alexanders birth certificate ..
i live in florida i hope someone may know how to help me.
angela walden-conahey

Lottie
03-04-2005, 3:31 AM
Angela

Have located Margaret Quine in 1871 Census: Can send details off forum if you would like them.
Think John Duncan Calwell was born after 1871 Census.
This is also Margatet , in 1881,
Dwelling: 4C Upper Dalton 3H Gothic Terrace
Census Place: West Derby, Lancashire, England
Source: FHL Film 1341886 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 3701 Folio 49 Page 29
Marr Age Sex Birthplace
William QUINE M 41 M Isle of Man, England
Rel: Head
Occ: Cotton Porter
Margeret QUINE M 49 F Isle of Man, England
Rel: Wife
William H. QUINE U 17 M Isle of Man, England
Rel: Son
Occ: Butcher
Margeret QUINE U 10 F West Derby Lpool
Rel: Daur
Occ: Scholar
Isabella QUINE U 7 F West Derby Lpool

Have found a possible marriage for John and Margaret on Free BMD.
<www.freebmd.org.uk (http://www.freebmd.org.uk)

Record Type: Marriages Quarter: June Year: 1900 District: West Derby County: Lancashire Volume: 8b Page: 651
Caldwell, Duncan 1900 June Marriages West Derby Lancashire
June Marriages West Derby Lancashire

Lottie
03-04-2005, 4:19 AM
Angela
1901 Census
information:
RG13/3473Registration district:West Derby
Sub-registration district:North Everton
ED, institution, or vessel:5
Folio:134 Page:16 (http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?viewrecord=1&ti=0&r=an&db=uki1901&F0=LANRG13_3473_3475-0268)

Household schedule number:107




James Caldwell (http://javascript<b></b>:go50904e0())59 LiverpoolFather Everton Lancashire Head
John D Caldwell (http://javascript<b></b>:go50904e1())23 LiverpoolHead Everton Lancashire Liverpool Lancashire
Margaret J Caldwell (http://javascript<b></b>:go50904e3())21 LiverpoolWife Everton Lancashire
James Caldwell 1 " Son



Household schedule number:107




James Caldwell (http://javascript<b></b>:go50904e0())59 LiverpoolFather Everton Lancashire Head
John D Caldwell (http://javascript<b></b>:go50904e1())23 LiverpoolHead Everton Lancashire Liverpool Lancashire
Margaret J Caldwell (http://javascript<b></b>:go50904e3())21 LiverpoolWife Everton Lancashire
James Caldwell 1 " Son

again if you would like full details can send them off list!!

Lottie

New Zealand

Lottie
03-04-2005, 4:31 AM
Angela

The 1871 census I gave was incorrect Margaret wasn't born until 1880.
Here she is with Family in 1881 Census
Dwelling: 24 Zante St
Census Place: Kirkdale, Lancashire, England
Source: FHL Film 1341880 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 3675 Folio 12 Page 17
Marr Age Sex Birthplace
William QUINE M 40 M Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Rel: Head
Occ: Book Keeper
Margaret A. QUINE M 26 F Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Rel: Wife
Occ: L H
Aurther QUINE 8 M Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Rel: Son
Occ: Scholar
William QUINE 5 M Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Rel: Son
Occ: Scholar
Mary Ellen QUINE 3 F Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Rel: Daur
Margaret J. QUINE 4 m F Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Rel: Daur
Edward STANLEY W 58 M London, London, Middlesex, England
Rel: Lodger
Occ: Clerk
Edward H. STANLEY 12 M Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Rel: Lodger
Occ: Scholar
George LITTLER U 25 M Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Rel: Lodger
Occ: Ships Cook

Lottie
New Zealand

angela 75
03-04-2005, 7:04 AM
thank you lottie
i have some researching to do.
you have given me alot to look at.
again thanks
angela

angela 75
05-04-2005, 1:38 AM
We Are Looking At The Info On John Duncan Caldwell In The 1901
Census .
It Could Be Them ..
I Am Having My Sister Talk To My Aunt Who Still Lives In Liverpool
And See If This Info Makes Sense.
I Found Out That John Duncan Wife Margaret Jane Caldwell Remarried And That She Had Other Children With Her Second Husband
We Believe That Her New Name Was Hallmark.
When Someone Remarries How Do You Find Them..
Thanks For The Help .
Angela

angela 75
22-06-2010, 1:54 AM
I am still trying to find info on my Grandfather Alexander Caldwell and his Parents John and Margaret Quine-Caldwell.
My sister talked to my Aunt who is still in Liverpool and so if anyone comes on this site i still need to find info on them.
Like stated above they were in the 1901 census. And the son John Duncan Caldwell was killed in WW2.

Thank you
Angela Walden-Conahey

Keyboard86
22-06-2010, 2:13 AM
Hi Angela this is Alexander on the 1911 Census:-

1911 census

John Duncan Caldwell Head 32 occ Fruit Porter
Margaret Jane Wife Married 10 years they have had two children both still alive.
John Duncan Son 11
Alexander Son 8
Alexander Uncle 28 occ Dealer in Fruit

Residing at 10 House in 17 Court Robsart Street Liverpool All born Liverpool Lancs.

Census ref RG14PN22487 RG78PN1324 RD455 SD7 ED4 SN370

Census ref courtesy of and copyright TNA

Keyboard86

Waitabit
22-06-2010, 8:49 AM
This thread is closely linked to this thread (http://www.british-genealogy.com/forums/showthread.php?5250-Quine-caldwell-Family)
if anyone needs to brush up on the History.

angela1956
29-09-2018, 11:21 PM
Hi i just found this site again.
Haven't been on this site 2010.I joined in 2005.
I lost my password and it wouldn't let me change my password.
So I had to make a new name I was Angela 75 before,
I am still looking for Info.
Trying to find Death certificate for John Duncan Caldwell.
I know he is in the 1911 census with his Wife Margaret Jane Quine 2 children John Duncan Caldwell son 11yrs/ Alexander Caldwell 8yrs And Uncle Alexander Caldwell.
Margaret Jane Caldwell Remarried In October 1914 to Thomas Hallmark
Would also like to find Margaret Jane Quine Caldwell Hallmark Death Certificate my Mum Remembers she was about 6yrs old which would 1943 when she attend the funeral .
So If anyone knows how i can find this info.
I thank you in advance.
Angela Walden-Conahey

Waitabit
30-09-2018, 12:47 AM
Is this your Man?
CALDWELL, JOHN DUNCAN RITCHIE x HONEYMAN
GRO Reference: 1882 M Quarter in LIVERPOOL Volume 08B Page 52
....................
Name: John D R Caldwell
Death Age: 56
Birth Date: abt 1882
Registration Date: Jun 1938
Registration district: Liverpool North
Inferred County: Lancashire
Volume: 8b
Page: 478
.......

Waitabit
30-09-2018, 1:10 AM
My error, sorry Angela.
Name: John Duncan Caldwell
Birth Date: 27 Sep 1872
Baptism Date: 12 Nov 1872
Baptism Place: Saint Peter,Liverpool,Lancashire,England
Father: James Caldwell
Mother: Elizabeth
..............
CALDWELL, JOHN DUNCAN x WILLETS
GRO Reference: 1872 D Quarter in LIVERPOOL Volume 08B Page 21
................
Caldwell,James + Willetts Elizabeth- Liverpool 8b 275
..........
There are several mentions of a John Caldwell b. 1872 travelling here & there on Ancestry's pages. They are from varying countries but I didn't check them all.

Dundee10
30-09-2018, 3:05 AM
Trying to find Death certificate for John Duncan Caldwell.
I know he is in the 1911 census with his Wife Margaret Jane......Margaret Jane Caldwell Remarried In October 1914

You can search here:

https://www.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/search.pl

There is a possible death for John registered in West Derby in the first quarter of 1914.

Margaret was in Liverpool in 1939 and there is a death registered in Liverpool in 1950 for a Margaret J HALLMARK aged 75. The age is a bit out and it is later than what your mother remembers.

Pamelawagster
30-09-2018, 8:44 AM
Death reg.
CALDWELL, JOHN DUNCAN age 37
GRO Ref:1914 M Quarter WEST DERBY Volume 08B Page 709

You can look up & order certs from here : www.gro.gov.uk

Looking at your original post,are you still looking for information on Alexander’s birth?

angela1956
30-09-2018, 5:15 PM
I found Alexander my grandfathers birth and Death Certificates.
Looking for Alexander Father John Duncan Caldwell born in 1879 on the Census in 1911 he was 31yrs old.
So in 1914 when my Great grand mother Maragert Jane Quine Caldwell remarried John would have been 34yrs old.not 37yrs old.
I guess i could see if the john age 37 is him they might have got his age wrong.
Thanks Pamelawagster.

angela1956
30-09-2018, 5:26 PM
hi Dundee10
On Ancestry I saw this for Maragret it doesn't work.
I know that her oldest son John Duncan Caldwell born 1899 was killed in WW2 1941 he was a Air Raid Warden and they have his wife and mother listed.
My Mum remembers going to her Grandmothers funeral when she was 6yrs old.
I know that my Aunt Phyllis died in 1950 and it was very hard on the family she was only 21yrs old,so my mom's memory is clear about when she remembers her grandmother dying.I will check out this site anyway.
I no longer have family in Liverpool my Aunt Pearl passed in 2013 and she was my go to person.i don't have a relationship with her only son who is still in Liverpool, My other Aunts children live in Wales and London and are not interested in Family History.
Thanks for you help

angela1956
30-09-2018, 5:30 PM
Hi Waitabit:::I have heard this name i was told he might be my Great Great Grandfather's father's James brother.
Caldwell in Liverpool is like Smith and Jone here in America.
It seems there are alot of Caldwell's it is a common name.
I just have to find the right branch i belong to.
Not as easy as they show on the tv Programs.
Thanks

almach
01-10-2018, 1:30 AM
Margaret Jane Caldwell Remarried And That She Had Other Children With Her Second Husband
We Believe That Her New Name Was Hallmark.

There's things with these folks which don't follow and aren't straightforward

One being Margaret's children to her 2nd husband. When a couple are married children should be registered with their father's suname and mother's maiden name, irrespective of whether the wife has been married before. It seems Margaret Jane Quine and Thomas Hallmark didn't follow that requirement. There are no births, within the timeframe registered as Hallmark MMN Quine.

However there are these! Which surely must be the ones

Births Mar 1917
Hallmark Thomas, MMN Caldwell W.Derby 8b 851
Births Dec 1919
Hallmark Margaret J, MMN Caldwell W.Derby 8b 1041

almach
01-10-2018, 1:53 AM
I found Alexander my grandfathers birth and Death Certificates.
Looking for Alexander Father John Duncan Caldwell born in 1879 on the Census in 1911 he was 31yrs old.
So in 1914 when my Great grand mother Maragert Jane Quine Caldwell remarried John would have been 34yrs old.not 37yrs old.
I guess i could see if the john age 37 is him they might have got his age wrong.
Thanks Pamelawagster.

Actually Angela, JD Caldwell was entered as 32 in 1911 and 23 in 1901. If the 1901 is correct or nearly correct, JDC's age is about right at 37yrs in 1914.

You shouldn't put too much emphasis on exact birth years, as you'll find many folks years of birth changed throughout the censuses. Back then people weren't so concerned about their birthday, and very few celebrated it. Also death certificates often have the wrong age entered as it depended upon who the informant was and how well they knew the deceased.

1901 census, Everton. RG13; Piece: 3473; Folio: 134; Page: 16
All born Liverpool
John D Caldwell, head, 23
Margaret J Caldwell, wife, 21
John D Caldwell, son, 1
James Caldwell, father, 59

1911, Everton, RG14; Piece: 22487,
John Duncan Caldwell 32
Margaret Jane Caldwell 29
John Duncan Caldwell 11
Alexander Caldwell 8
Alexander Caldwell 23

And in 1900 when he married JDC is 23, if this is correct he would be 37yrs in 1914.

Marriage: Everton St Polycarp, June 17th 1900
Duncan Caldwell, age 23, bachelor, labourer, 16, Conway St, father James Caldwell a labourer
Margaret Jane Quine, 21, spinster, 16, Conway St, father William Quine a labourer
I can't make out the witnesses surnames, their first names are William and Mary.

almach
01-10-2018, 2:30 AM
I know that her oldest son John Duncan Caldwell born 1899 was killed in WW2 1941 he was a Air Raid Warden and they have his wife and mother listed.

Ancestry's "WWII Civilian Deaths, 1939-1945" Has his mother's address as 81, Prince Edwin St

1939 Register. 81, Prince Edwin St, Liverpool
Thomas Hallmark, born 3rd Apr 1883
Marget J Hallmark, born 21st Dec 1883
Arthur Caldwell, born 11th Aug 1914.

See how Margaret's birth year differs from her marriage and 1901 and 1911 census.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Births qrt 3, 1914
Caldwell Arthur, MMN Quine, W. Derby, vol 8b page 1051.

almach
01-10-2018, 2:36 AM
See how Margaret's birth year differs from her marriage and 1901 and 1911 census.


There doesn't appear to be a birth registration which fits with the above birthday. There's one in Ulverston but that Margaret Jane can be tracedd through the census.

My take is the 1939 register has the wrong birth date, but I cannot be certain.

I had thought this baptism most likely.

Name: Margaret Jane Quine
Birth Date: 22 Sep 1880
Baptism Date: 13 Dec 1880
Baptism Place: St Peter's Church, England, Lancashire, Liverpool
Father: William Quine
Mother: Margaret Ann

And the corresponding registration

Margaret Jane Quine, Oct-Nov-Dec 1880, West Derby, vol 8b page 414

almach
01-10-2018, 3:26 AM
See what I mean re: birth years changing from one census to another.

1881, 34 Court Green St, St Martin Liverpool, RG11; Piece: 3597; Folio: 117; Page: 55
All born Liverpool
James Caldwell 43, boiler maker
Elizabeth Caldwell 42
Elizabeth Caldwell 13
James Caldwell 14
Esable (sic) ??? Caldwell 10
John Caldwell 6
Alexander Caldwell 3

1891, 2 court 5 house, Kirkdale, Liverpool, RG12; Piece: 2963; Folio: 105; Page: 31
All born Liverpool
James Caldwell 49, labourer in boiler yard
Elizabeth Caldwell 51
Isabella Caldwell 18
Duncan Caldwell 16
Alexander Caldwell 14
James Caldwell 22, married
Alice Caldwell 21, married, dau in law
Lanshlon (sic)??? (Lauchland?) Caldwell 4/12

John Duncan Caldwell seems to use his full name, or just John or Just Duncan depending which record you look at.

Dundee10
02-10-2018, 12:23 AM
The Liverpool electoral register 1939-1940 has Thomas and Margaret Jane HALLMARK and Arthur CALDWELL living at 81 Prince Edwin Street.

Thomas dies in 1943:

Deaths March quarter 1943

HALLMARK, Thomas M C
Aged 59
Liverpool N. 8b 455

In 1945 Margaret HALLMARK, her son Arthur CALDWELL and daughter Margaret ABRAHAM are together at the Prince Edwin address. In 1950 only Margaret ABRAHAM and her husband John are at that address.

If you think that Margaret died around the same time as Thomas then I suggest that you contact the Liverpool council for burial records as you may find them at one of the cemeteries together.

Just for your interest, Thomas Murdock Caldwell HALLMARK was the son of Frederick HALLMARK and Margaret CALDWELL. Margaret was the sister of John Duncan's father James. This makes JD and Thomas cousins.

angela1956
02-10-2018, 1:22 PM
Hi Almach
Yes it is very confusing.
My Family is not as straight forward as you would wish when doing research.
Thanks i will keep looking.

Angela

angela1956
02-10-2018, 1:27 PM
Hi Dundee 10
Well i didn't see that one coming.
So Margaret married a cousin of her Husband.
Well that keeping it in the family.
Thanks for the Info.

Angela

angela1956
28-07-2019, 4:56 PM
Dundee 10 I have some questions about the below info.
The Liverpool electoral register 1939-1940 has Thomas and Margaret Jane HALLMARK and Arthur CALDWELL living at 81 Prince Edwin Street.

Thomas dies in 1943:

Deaths March quarter 1943

HALLMARK, Thomas M C
Aged 59
Liverpool N. 8b 455

In 1945 Margaret HALLMARK, her son Arthur CALDWELL and daughter Margaret ABRAHAM are together at the Prince Edwin address. In 1950 only Margaret ABRAHAM and her husband John are at that address.

If you think that Margaret died around the same time as Thomas then I suggest that you contact the Liverpool council for burial records as you may find them at one of the cemeteries together.

Just for your interest, Thomas Murdock Caldwell HALLMARK was the son of Frederick HALLMARK and Margaret CALDWELL. Margaret was the sister of John Duncan's father James. This makes JD and Thomas cousins.

Thanks for this information.Talked to my Mum again about her Grandmother Margaret she thinks she is wrong about her passing in the 1940"s.How do i find out when she actually did die.How do I find the death certificates for Arthur Caldwell my Mum remembers her father going to her Uncles Funeral doesnt remember the year though.Would like to know how to find Margaret Hallmark-Abraham born in 1919 death certificate did she have children with husband John Abraham.Any info on Thomas Hallmark son born in 1917 marriage children and death

christanel
28-07-2019, 8:19 PM
A possibility for Margaret Hallmark Abraham death
Margaret Jane Abraham
Death Age 84
Birth Date 13 Sep 1919
Registration Date Oct 2003
Registration district Knowsley, Merseyside
Register Number A45
District and Subdistrict 023/1A
Entry Number 202
Christina

christanel
28-07-2019, 8:31 PM
A son

Arthur C Abraham
Registered Sept 1/4 1949
Registration district Liverpool North Lancashire
Mother's maiden name Hallmark
Vol 10d Page 357

Arthur died in 2003.

If you use FreeBMD you will find the births of 5 children to Margaret and John, including Arthur. The first is in 1945 and the last in 1957, all registered in Liverpool North reg dist.
I can't give you their names as they may still be alive.
Christina

angela1956
29-07-2019, 1:14 AM
Christal
Thanks for the info on my Great Aunt Margaret Hallmark-Abraham and her family.Talked to my Mum tonight she has no info on Her father's half brother or half sister.It seems my Grandfather was estranged from his family after he left to go in the Army.Were you able to find any info on Arthur Caldwell born in 1914.Or his half brother Thomas Hallmark born in 1917.

christanel
29-07-2019, 1:41 AM
There were four Arthur Caldwells born in lancashire in 1914 - thankfully not in the same areas so I think this is the death of your Arthur.
Arthur Caldwell age 34 March 1/4 1949 registration district Liverpool N. vol 10d page 564.

I can't see a suitable marriage for him.

Christina

christanel
29-07-2019, 1:58 AM
Death of Thomas Hallmark age 2 March 1/4 1919 registration district West Derby (same as birth district in 1917) vol 8b page 991

Christina

angela1956
30-07-2019, 12:55 AM
Christanel
Thanks:::
I also think Arthur was single.
My Mum doesn't remember him being married.
Ah so Thomas didn't make pass 2yrs old.That is sad.My Great Grandma Margaret was Pregnant with her Daughter when he passed.That explains some of the stories that she was over protective of Her daughter.

Angela

angela1956
09-05-2020, 3:24 AM
hi I need some help.
I just got a message from a cousin i didn't know i had,
Her father it seems is my Mother's Uncle.
My Grand father Alexander Caldwell brother.
I knew with help from this forum that my Grandfather had 2 brothers
John Duncan Caldwell born in 1899 and died in 1941,
Arthur Caldwell born in 1914 and died in 1949,
now i need help with new brother named William Henry Caldwell born in March 1912 liverpool died in 1968 in Nottingham England.In his daughter Tina email she stated that her mother was 2nd wife first wife died of Luekima.Her Mum was married in 1960.She also states she has letters from my great grandmother Maragaret and one from William half sister Margaret.Her brother was named he was told after his Uncle who died in WW2 he was a Air Raid Warden and died in the war his name is John Duncan Caldwell,Maragaret Quine Caldwell father name was William Quine so she named her son after her father.Since William was born in March 1912 the next census was not til 1921 do you know if the 1921 census is available.So he would be 9yrs old.How do i figure this out.On Ancestry i have checked all the people who have My Family info and know one has his name on there tree,How do i find info on this new family member,His daughter has know info on the Caldwell Family since her dad died when she was 5yrs old.Since he left Liverpool.Had no Contact with my family.My Mum barely remember him called him Uncle Bill.If anyone can give me guidance on how to find info on My New Found Great Uncle if would be helpful.Thanks Angela

Lesley Robertson
09-05-2020, 1:36 PM
The best thing if you want to be sure is to check all of birth, marriage and death certificates for the critical moments - eg William henry's birth cert in 1912 and death cert in 1968. Does Tina give wife 1's name and date of death? Or wife 2's name and date of marriage?

You can get preliminary info from index sites, etc. For a start, the CWGC has a death of a civilian called John Duncan Caldwell on 7 May, 1941, afge 42 in Liverpool. They have some additional information (quoting from their site):
"Air Raid Warden. Son of Margaret Hallmark, of 81 Prince Edwin Street; husband of Beatrice Caldwell, of 9 Attwood Street. Injured 4 May 1941, at Paley Street; died at Broad Green Emergency Hospital."

This agrees with that point in her information.

If it was my search, I would plot the information Tina's given you onto an old-style family tree, and then mark each relationship in colour as you confirm it.

No,the 1921 is not available.

angela1956
14-05-2020, 10:06 PM
I am still having trouble finding William Henry Caldwell born in 1912.Died in 1968.
As posted above I am trying to find a connection to my New Great Uncle,
i have been on Ancestry Find my Past and a couple of other site.I would just like to see if someone can who has access to records can confirm that his Parents on his Birth Certificate has John Duncan Caldwell and Margaret Quine.Would like to know who his first wife is when he was married,was he in Military during WW2.
Any one who could help i can only say Thanks so Much.
My new Cousin llves in Nottingham England And since England is on Lockdown Cousin can't gather info since it's not with her.
SEE ABOVE Post for information.I am in Florida in the USA.
I don't have alot of money to buy all the different sites.I only could afford Ancesty since i did my DNA with them.
So if someone could be kind and give me some guidance on where to look.
Thanks
Angela Walden-Conahey

angela1956
14-05-2020, 10:09 PM
Thank You Lesley Robinson,
Do you know when 1921 Census in England will be release.
I know that would give me alot of Infomation.
Angela Walden-Conahey

christanel
14-05-2020, 10:45 PM
Hi
On FreeBMD
A marriage of a William H Caldwell 1933 to an Emily E Walker registration district Nottingham
Then a death of an Emily E Caldwell age 43 March 1/4 1958 registration disrict Nottingham.

2nd marriage 1960 registration district Nottingham'

I can see only one possible birth of a child to the first marriage. I can't give his name as he may still be alive but if you go to FreeBMD and look for a birth in the December 1/4 1934 registration district Nottingham you will find him. There are other Caldwell Walker births but they are not in Nottingham and as the possible first wife died in Nottingham they may not be of any consequence.

There is no way of confirming the details of the birth certificate without purchasing it. I checked on Lancs OPC (a free site} and on ancestry for a baptism but found nothing. However if you know that Arthur birth reg W Derby 1914 is definitely your man then it is a good bet that the William Henry Caldwell birth reg 1912 W Derby mother's maiden name Quine is his brother.

The magazine Who Do You Think You Are gave this information about the 1921 census in the magazine 26 March 2019.
"However, it was announced last month that Findmypast has won the contract to publish the 1921 England and Wales census in January 2022."
Christina

Pamelawagster
15-05-2020, 12:09 PM
Not sure if you have the birth reg?
You can order a PDF copy of the birth cert from gro.gov.uk

CALDWELL, WILLIAM HENRY
MMN - QUINE
GRO Ref. 1912 M Quarter
WEST DERBY
Vol 08B Page 938

angela1956
16-05-2020, 1:24 AM
Thanks I will check it out.
Angela

angela1956
16-05-2020, 1:31 AM
Hi Christina
Thank you so much.
I think your help will direct me in right direction.
Its hard when Ancestry doesnt give me any hints when i put William info in.
Now with Emily info i might get more hints,
I did not know that they had a child.
Yes it seems William And Arthur are being a little hard to find,
Thanks for the info for when the Census for 1921 for England,
It will answer all the questions,
Thanks
Angela

angela1956
25-05-2020, 10:46 PM
Hi would like to ask a question.
Margaret Hallmark and Daughter Margaret and Husband John Abraham show that in 1950 Lived at 81 Prince Edwin St.
I received a Letter believe received in 1960's to William Henry Caldwell where it says they moved to 93 Ashbury Road in Huyton LPool 14.
is there a way I can confirm that the family moved to this address .I have pictures of 3 children names on the back of pictures was there names age and year picture taken/// In 1958 the children were aged 9, 7,and 5 in 1958. We think that Maragaret Abraham is the children's mother and that the photos came with the letter.
Also is there a way to find out if William Henry Caldwell born in 1912 died in 1968 was in the Military during WW2
And if Arthur Caldwell born in 1914 and died in 1949 was also in the military in WW2 also.
William worked in Nottingham at Service Waste Co.LTD Waste Paper Merchants 41 Storer Street Nottingham was a Cardbox Factory.Any one know anything about this Company,Dont know what he did at this company,Any help would be appreciated.Thanks Angela

Pam Downes
26-05-2020, 12:31 AM
Angela, I have had to slightly alter the wording of your post and remove the names of the children who are probably still living.


Hi would like to ask a question.
Margaret Hallmark and Daughter Margaret and Husband John Abraham show that in 1950 Lived at 81 Prince Edwin St.
I received a Letter believe received in 1960's to William Henry Caldwell where it says they moved to 93 Ashbury Road in Huyton LPool 14.
is there a way I can confirm that the family moved to this address .
Electoral rolls will confirm the names of people who were entitled to vote (in the early 60s this would be people aged 21 and over). I am willing to be proved wrong but the electoral rolls for that period are probably not online so you would need to hire a researcher.



I have pictures of 3 children names on the back of pictures was there names age and year picture taken/// In 1958 the children were aged 9, 7,and 5 in 1958. We think that Maragaret Abraham is the children's mother and that the photos came with the letter.
It is still a work in progress but mostly complete to 1983 so go to https://www.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/search.pl
and search for the birth registrations of the children and check out the mother's maiden name.


Also is there a way to find out if William Henry Caldwell born in 1912 died in 1968 was in the Military during WW2
And if Arthur Caldwell born in 1914 and died in 1949 was also in the military in WW2 also.
The answer to both is the same.
The cheap way is to check out the local papers for obituaries. Papers available via the British Newspaper Archive or (except for the latest updates) on Findmypast.

There could be mention of them during the war in the newspapers.My home town newspaper had regular features (and photos) of men in the military.

The other, very expensive, way means you have to obtain their birth certificates because you have to supply their date of birth; obtain copies of their death certificates which have to be sent off with the application forms. And finally send a cheque for thirty pounds with each application to the Ministry of Defence.



William worked in Nottingham at Service Waste Co.LTD Waste Paper Merchants 41 Storer Street Nottingham was a Cardbox Factory.Any one know anything about this Company,Dont know what he did at this company,Any help would be appreciated.Thanks Angela

Pamelawagster
26-05-2020, 9:46 AM
Sent you a private message.

angela1956
26-05-2020, 10:26 PM
Pam Downes
Thanks for your info.
I was not trying to find info on the children.I was just listing them as part of the family at the new Address.Since finding a new brother for my Granddad.Caldwell in Liverpool is such a common last name and they name all there kids John Arthur Margaret its hard to figure which line belongs to My Granddad's.
i really appreciate all the help your site gives me.i don;t have a lot of money so I like to ask questions so that i can choose wisely.
Thanks for your help.