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lornag2
08-09-2009, 6:13 PM
Can anyone enlighten me please. In a published version of The Visitation of Somerset 1623, the Raymond family tree shows -

George de com. Glouc.
What does de com. signify?

Will. Raymond of Ilchester superstes 1623 = Maria f. Joh. Querie de com. Som. sergiant at armes to Q. Marie and Q. Eliz. - exactly as spelt.
Superstes? The 'f' must be father, but what was his role? Queen Marie?

There are also
Julia d. and coh. of Wm.,
Margaret d. and h. of John Cole
George f. and h. aet 16, 1623.
Assuming d. is daughter, is h. heir, what is coh? Is is possible that George was a father at age 16 or is it simply a misprint and should be s. and h.?

Lorna

Geoffers
08-09-2009, 8:48 PM
These visitations often include a lot of abbreviated Latin.


George de com. Glouc.
What does de com. signify?

de com(itatus) = 'of the county of' Glouc(ester)



superstes

Surviving, or alive


Queen Marie?

One of the daughters of Henry 8, elder sister to Queen Elizabeth. Normally now spelt Mary.


Maria f. Joh.T.........he 'f' must be father

Maria f(ilia) = Maria daughter of.


George f. and h. aet 16, 1623.
is possible that George was a father at age 16 or is it simply a misprint and should be s. and h.?

I would assume it to be f(ilius) - Latin for 'son'.


what is coh.

Presumably coh(eres) = joint heir(ess).

lornag2
08-09-2009, 9:08 PM
Many thanks Geoffers, that's a great help. Wish I had learned latin at school!

Lorna

Geoffers
08-09-2009, 9:20 PM
Wish I had learned latin at school!

Put the kettle on, make a cuppa and have a go at TNA's guides to Latin (http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/gettingstarted/in_depth_guides.htm?WT.lp=gs-in-depth)

lornag2
08-09-2009, 9:29 PM
OK will do. Botanical latin is all I know and I've forgotten much of that.