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15-03-2005, 10:03 AM
Robert Nelson married Martha
Census information confirms that Robert was born in Whissonsett, Norfolk in
1825 and Martha was born in Weasenham, Norfolk in 1829.
But what was Martha’s maiden name?
The clue comes from the 1881 census.
Robert and Martha are living at Main Street, Marske, Yorkshire:
1881: Main Street, Marske, Yorkshire
Robert Nelson abt 1825, 56, Whissonsett, Norfolk, Head, Labourer
Martha Nelson abt 1829, 52, Whissonsett, Norfolk, Wife
William Nelson abt 1860, 21, Skelton, Yorkshire, Son, Stone Mason
Edward Nelson abt 1865, 16, Marske, Yorkshire, Son, Coal Leader (Carter)
Jessie Eldon abt 1866, 15, London, Middlesex, Niece, Servant
I note that Martha’s place of birth is given as Whissonsett in the 1881 census,
but as Weasenham in 1861, 1871 and 1891 so I take the latter to be correct.
But who is Jessie Eldon, niece, servant to this family?
Possibility 1. She is the daughter of Robert Nelson’s sister
Possibility 2. She is the daughter of Martha Nelson’s sister
Possibility 3. She is the daughter of Martha Nelson’s brother
Now, for the moment I don’t have any information about siblings for Robert or
Martha.
Jessie Eldon was living away from home and in service at 15, but was
presumably with her family as a five year old in the 1871 census.
Here she is:
1871: 9 Phillip Street, Shoreditch, London
George Eldon 34 Bermondsey, Middlesex, Head, Carpenter
Susanna Eldon 36 Weasenham, Norfolk, Wife
Cristopher W Eldon 11 Darlington, Durham, Son, Scholar
Jessie Eldon 5 Hoxton, Middlesex, Daughter, Scholar
Emily Eldon 3 Hoxton, Middlesex, Daughter, Scholar
Susan E Eldon 1 Hoxton, Middlesex, Daughter
So now the focus is on Susanna Eldon. What was her maiden name?
Was it Nelson? – in which case she was Robert’s sister (Possibility 1 above)
Or if not then EITHER Susanna is Martha’s sister (Possibility 2)
OR George Eldon is Martha’s brother (Possibility 3).
Can I find the marriage details for George Eldon and Susanna?
We are looking for a marriage about 1860 (Cristopher’s birth) or before.
I searched LDS for a marriage of George Eldon in the decade 1850 to 1860:
Two results:
1852, Northumberland, George Eldon to Jane Barron
1859, Middlesborough, George Eldon to Susanna TAYLOR.
Thinformation about siblings for Robert or
Martha.
Jessie Eldon was living away from home and in service at 15, but was
presumably with her family as a five year old in the 1871 census.
Here she is:
1871: 9 Phillip Street, Shoreditch, London
George Eldon 34 Bermondsey, Middlesex, Head, Carpenter
Susanna Eldon 36 Weasenham, Norfolk, Wife
Cristopher W Eldon 11 Darlington, Durham, Son, Scholar
Jessie Eldon 5 Hoxton, Middlesex, Daughter, Scholar
Emily Eldon 3 Hoxton, Middlesex, Daughter, Scholar
Susan E Eldon 1 Hoxton, Middlesex, Daughter
So now the focus is on Susanna Eldon. What was her maiden name?
Was it Nelson? – in which case she was Robert’s sister (Possibility 1 above)
Or if not then EITHER Susanna is Martha’s sister (Possibility 2)
OR George Eldon is Martha’s brother (Possibility 3).
Can I find the marriage details for George Eldon and Susanna?
We are looking for a marriage about 1860 (Cristopher’s birth) or before.
I searched LDS for a marriage of George Eldon in the decade 1850 to 1860:
Two results:
1852, Northumberland, George Eldon to Jane Barron
1859, Middlesborough, George Eldon to Susanna TAYLOR.
The spelling of Susanna seems affirmative, and a Middlesborough marriage
makes sense in the light of the birth of Cristopher in Darlington.
So – progress. Jessie Eldon’s mother was born Susannah Taylor.
So we eliminate Possibility 1 – Susanna was not Robert Nelson’s sister.
But is she Martha’s sister, or could George Eldon be Martha’s brother?
Ah! But we now use the fact that Susanna was born in Weasenham (1871
Census). So it’s pretty obvious that she must be Martha’s sister!
Moreover, the LDS information takes us a little further:
GEORGE ELDON marriage to SUSANNA TAYLOR
GEORGE ELDON: father: WILLIAM ELDON
SUSANNA TAYLOR: father ROBERT THOMAS TAYLOR
Marriage: 23 JUN 1859 Middlesbrough, Yorkshire.
So we have established that Martha Nelson was sister to Susannah Taylor
and the daughter of Robert Thomas Taylor.
What I find quite fascinating is that the two sisters Martha and Susanna both
find themselves in North Yorkshire at about the same time. What was it that
took these two Norfolk girls to Yorkshire?
Martha’s daughter Susan (named after Susanna?) was born in Whissonsett
about 1858, and her son William was baptised 6th Jan 1860 at Skelton near
Mae spelling of Susanna seems affirmative, and a Middlesborough marriage
makes sense in the light of the birth of Cristopher in Darlington.
So – progress. Jessie Eldon’s mother was born Susannah Taylor.
So we eliminate Possibility 1 – Susanna was not Robert Nelson’s sister.
But is she Martha’s sister, or could George Eldon be Martha’s brother?
Ah! But we now use the fact that Susanna was born in Weasenham (1871
Census). So it’s pretty obvious that she must be Martha’s sister!
Moreover, the LDS information takes us a little further:
GEORGE ELDON marriage to SUSANNA TAYLOR
GEORGE ELDON: father: WILLIAM ELDON
SUSANNA TAYLOR: father ROBERT THOMAS TAYLOR
Marriage: 23 JUN 1859 Middlesbrough, Yorkshire.
So we have established that Martha Nelson was sister to Susannah Taylor
and the daughter of Robert Thomas Taylor.
What I find quite fascinating is that the two sisters Martha and Susanna both
find themselves in North Yorkshire at about the same time. What was it that
took these two Norfolk girls to Yorkshire?
Martha’s daughter Susan (named after Susanna?) was born in Whissonsett
about 1858, and her son William was baptised 6th Jan 1860 at Skelton near
Marske, Yorkshire. So it looks as though Robert and Martha moved to
Yorkshire during 1858 or 1859.
And it was on 23 June 1859 that Susanna marries George in the same
vicinity. Now George was a Londoner and had returned South before about
1865 when Jessie Eldon was born in Hoxton. I wonder what he was doing in
Yorkshire.
I can imagine the following scenario:
Robert Nelson marries his Weasenham sweetheart Martha and they set up
home in Whissonsett. Something takes the family to Yorkshire about 1858/9.
During that period the unmarried Susanna Taylor visits Yorkshire to see her
sister (and nieces Mary Jane and Susan, and nephew Robert). While there
she meets a London man George Eldon who invites her to be his wife…….
and Mary Jane (nearly 5) makes a lovely bridesmaid………
Now I really am flying kites! But behind this lies a question that might be worth
exploring:
Were there other family connections that drew the two Norfolk sisters to
Yorkshire – Eldons, Taylors or Nelsons? Or did one sister follow the other
there?
And what can I discover about Robert Thomas Taylor who had two daughters
Martha 1829 and Susanna 1835 in Weasenham.
Can’t wait for my Norfolk 1841 CD to arrive!
Census information confirms that Robert was born in Whissonsett, Norfolk in
1825 and Martha was born in Weasenham, Norfolk in 1829.
But what was Martha’s maiden name?
The clue comes from the 1881 census.
Robert and Martha are living at Main Street, Marske, Yorkshire:
1881: Main Street, Marske, Yorkshire
Robert Nelson abt 1825, 56, Whissonsett, Norfolk, Head, Labourer
Martha Nelson abt 1829, 52, Whissonsett, Norfolk, Wife
William Nelson abt 1860, 21, Skelton, Yorkshire, Son, Stone Mason
Edward Nelson abt 1865, 16, Marske, Yorkshire, Son, Coal Leader (Carter)
Jessie Eldon abt 1866, 15, London, Middlesex, Niece, Servant
I note that Martha’s place of birth is given as Whissonsett in the 1881 census,
but as Weasenham in 1861, 1871 and 1891 so I take the latter to be correct.
But who is Jessie Eldon, niece, servant to this family?
Possibility 1. She is the daughter of Robert Nelson’s sister
Possibility 2. She is the daughter of Martha Nelson’s sister
Possibility 3. She is the daughter of Martha Nelson’s brother
Now, for the moment I don’t have any information about siblings for Robert or
Martha.
Jessie Eldon was living away from home and in service at 15, but was
presumably with her family as a five year old in the 1871 census.
Here she is:
1871: 9 Phillip Street, Shoreditch, London
George Eldon 34 Bermondsey, Middlesex, Head, Carpenter
Susanna Eldon 36 Weasenham, Norfolk, Wife
Cristopher W Eldon 11 Darlington, Durham, Son, Scholar
Jessie Eldon 5 Hoxton, Middlesex, Daughter, Scholar
Emily Eldon 3 Hoxton, Middlesex, Daughter, Scholar
Susan E Eldon 1 Hoxton, Middlesex, Daughter
So now the focus is on Susanna Eldon. What was her maiden name?
Was it Nelson? – in which case she was Robert’s sister (Possibility 1 above)
Or if not then EITHER Susanna is Martha’s sister (Possibility 2)
OR George Eldon is Martha’s brother (Possibility 3).
Can I find the marriage details for George Eldon and Susanna?
We are looking for a marriage about 1860 (Cristopher’s birth) or before.
I searched LDS for a marriage of George Eldon in the decade 1850 to 1860:
Two results:
1852, Northumberland, George Eldon to Jane Barron
1859, Middlesborough, George Eldon to Susanna TAYLOR.
Thinformation about siblings for Robert or
Martha.
Jessie Eldon was living away from home and in service at 15, but was
presumably with her family as a five year old in the 1871 census.
Here she is:
1871: 9 Phillip Street, Shoreditch, London
George Eldon 34 Bermondsey, Middlesex, Head, Carpenter
Susanna Eldon 36 Weasenham, Norfolk, Wife
Cristopher W Eldon 11 Darlington, Durham, Son, Scholar
Jessie Eldon 5 Hoxton, Middlesex, Daughter, Scholar
Emily Eldon 3 Hoxton, Middlesex, Daughter, Scholar
Susan E Eldon 1 Hoxton, Middlesex, Daughter
So now the focus is on Susanna Eldon. What was her maiden name?
Was it Nelson? – in which case she was Robert’s sister (Possibility 1 above)
Or if not then EITHER Susanna is Martha’s sister (Possibility 2)
OR George Eldon is Martha’s brother (Possibility 3).
Can I find the marriage details for George Eldon and Susanna?
We are looking for a marriage about 1860 (Cristopher’s birth) or before.
I searched LDS for a marriage of George Eldon in the decade 1850 to 1860:
Two results:
1852, Northumberland, George Eldon to Jane Barron
1859, Middlesborough, George Eldon to Susanna TAYLOR.
The spelling of Susanna seems affirmative, and a Middlesborough marriage
makes sense in the light of the birth of Cristopher in Darlington.
So – progress. Jessie Eldon’s mother was born Susannah Taylor.
So we eliminate Possibility 1 – Susanna was not Robert Nelson’s sister.
But is she Martha’s sister, or could George Eldon be Martha’s brother?
Ah! But we now use the fact that Susanna was born in Weasenham (1871
Census). So it’s pretty obvious that she must be Martha’s sister!
Moreover, the LDS information takes us a little further:
GEORGE ELDON marriage to SUSANNA TAYLOR
GEORGE ELDON: father: WILLIAM ELDON
SUSANNA TAYLOR: father ROBERT THOMAS TAYLOR
Marriage: 23 JUN 1859 Middlesbrough, Yorkshire.
So we have established that Martha Nelson was sister to Susannah Taylor
and the daughter of Robert Thomas Taylor.
What I find quite fascinating is that the two sisters Martha and Susanna both
find themselves in North Yorkshire at about the same time. What was it that
took these two Norfolk girls to Yorkshire?
Martha’s daughter Susan (named after Susanna?) was born in Whissonsett
about 1858, and her son William was baptised 6th Jan 1860 at Skelton near
Mae spelling of Susanna seems affirmative, and a Middlesborough marriage
makes sense in the light of the birth of Cristopher in Darlington.
So – progress. Jessie Eldon’s mother was born Susannah Taylor.
So we eliminate Possibility 1 – Susanna was not Robert Nelson’s sister.
But is she Martha’s sister, or could George Eldon be Martha’s brother?
Ah! But we now use the fact that Susanna was born in Weasenham (1871
Census). So it’s pretty obvious that she must be Martha’s sister!
Moreover, the LDS information takes us a little further:
GEORGE ELDON marriage to SUSANNA TAYLOR
GEORGE ELDON: father: WILLIAM ELDON
SUSANNA TAYLOR: father ROBERT THOMAS TAYLOR
Marriage: 23 JUN 1859 Middlesbrough, Yorkshire.
So we have established that Martha Nelson was sister to Susannah Taylor
and the daughter of Robert Thomas Taylor.
What I find quite fascinating is that the two sisters Martha and Susanna both
find themselves in North Yorkshire at about the same time. What was it that
took these two Norfolk girls to Yorkshire?
Martha’s daughter Susan (named after Susanna?) was born in Whissonsett
about 1858, and her son William was baptised 6th Jan 1860 at Skelton near
Marske, Yorkshire. So it looks as though Robert and Martha moved to
Yorkshire during 1858 or 1859.
And it was on 23 June 1859 that Susanna marries George in the same
vicinity. Now George was a Londoner and had returned South before about
1865 when Jessie Eldon was born in Hoxton. I wonder what he was doing in
Yorkshire.
I can imagine the following scenario:
Robert Nelson marries his Weasenham sweetheart Martha and they set up
home in Whissonsett. Something takes the family to Yorkshire about 1858/9.
During that period the unmarried Susanna Taylor visits Yorkshire to see her
sister (and nieces Mary Jane and Susan, and nephew Robert). While there
she meets a London man George Eldon who invites her to be his wife…….
and Mary Jane (nearly 5) makes a lovely bridesmaid………
Now I really am flying kites! But behind this lies a question that might be worth
exploring:
Were there other family connections that drew the two Norfolk sisters to
Yorkshire – Eldons, Taylors or Nelsons? Or did one sister follow the other
there?
And what can I discover about Robert Thomas Taylor who had two daughters
Martha 1829 and Susanna 1835 in Weasenham.
Can’t wait for my Norfolk 1841 CD to arrive!