Another one please

[KatieB]

This is another photo found in the scrapbook, but we have no idea who she may be any clues to a date would be very helpful.

http://catherinebrown.myphotoalbum.com/view_photo.php?set_albumName=album01&id=unknown_lady

[Thomasin]

I see a resemblance to your other photo, your great great granny Margaret. The same direct, deepset eyes, the nose - even the left hand with long fingers. Could it be her, several years earlier?

Thomasin

[Hugh Thompson]

Hi Katie, you may find this website of use for dating old photos.
Hugh.

Victorian and Edwardian Photographs - Roger Vaughan Personal Collection

http://www.rogerco.freeserve.co.uk/index.htm

[Jan1954]

Parish Chest also has Dating 19th Century Photographs (http://www.parishchest.com/shop/index.php?cmd=viewproduct&cat=&id=P26669&pageOffset=1) as well as Dating 20th Century Photographs (http://www.parishchest.com/shop/index.php?cmd=viewproduct&cat=&id=P26668&pageOffset=1), both of which may help you if you have a lot of photographs to date. ;)

[Mutley]

I'd say a little earlier, about 1909 -1912 which is when that hairstyle started to go out of fashion. Around 1910 the smart women's daytime outfit was a fairly plain blouse with a tailored skirt in keeping with female emancipation.

There is not a photo nearby, by any chance, of a young gent with centrally parted oiled hair style and a moustache. They are often seen together.

[Browneyes]

I'm not sure why but it made me think of the sort of clothes ladies wore for cycling. :confused:

[Thomasin]

It's those short sleeves that are puzzling me. Surely it's unusual to see bare arms? It almost looks as if she has altered a long-sleeved blouse.

I realize now that the photo is later than I first suggested, but can anyone else see a family resemblance with the Margaret Magee picture in KatieB's other thread?

Thomasin

[Browneyes]

It's those short sleeves that are puzzling me. Surely it's unusual to see bare arms? It almost looks as if she has altered a long-sleeved blouse.

Thomasin

I think that's why I thought of cycling. It's also the creasing above the elbows - caused by some sort of physical activity? Not that my thought will help much. |shakehead

Does the buckle tell us anything?

[KatieB]

The whole outfit is puzzling, I almost think she could be wearing trousers.
She probably is related to Granny Margaret as it was in Uncle james scrapbook and he never married.

Mutley- No pictures of young men have appeared.

[Browneyes]

Some questions you might like to think about:

Might there be clues by the position of the photo in the scrapbook, i.e. what precedes/follows it.....

(a) How has he set out the scrapbook: families, events, etc.

(b) Do the contents appear to have been added to over a long period of time or perhaps done later in his life? If he's pasted them in as they happened perhaps you could work out a timeline.

(c) On another post you gave "James (1894-1971)". Are there items in the scrapbook that predate him?

(d) Has he included any snippets of local news etc that include dates.

Perhaps looking at the "whole picture" of his scrapbook collection might throw some light on some of the mystery pictures.

[don.]

Your photograph shows a young woman from the between 1910 and the 1st ww period. Her hair is held in a very loose form of the pompadour style which, although went out of fashing in 1910, carried on in the form shown in the image until the 1914-1918 war only to be replaced by shorter cuts as women took on war work more and more. The blouse itself also fits in within the time line that I suggest with its round edged collar and sleeve length the way it is.
Coupled with this is the skirt that she would be wearing which again is of the period.

[Browneyes]

http://www.photodetective.co.uk/Ed-Transit.html
http://www.photodetective.co.uk/Swirl-A.html

[KatieB]

Thanks for the links


Browneyes The scrap book is an old accounts book from a mill James brother in law owned. It is very random with some loose older photo's and some modern photos and lots of family obituarys just stuck in where there was space.We found it in the attic when my great aunt's (James niece) house was cleared.
My brother occasionally goes to tea with our granny's cousin and has been instructed to take it with him the next time he goes, she may recognise some of the people.

[Browneyes]

I'm itching to know who the pretty young lady is. She's obviously important enough to be included. Perhaps she was a teacher...there's that look about her :D. Fingers crossed your brother comes back with some answers for you.

[KatieB]

I'm not sure if any of the family were overseas in that time period.