Looking for Alfred Parfitt

[lucydawn]

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hi please can you help? iam trying to find my great granfather Alfred
Parfitt. born in Garndiffaith south wales in 1869 dont know his mother or
fathers name.

all i know is that he lived on the garn and married annie elizabeth harris so i have been told, she is from usk.

can't even find marriage certificate for them.

he's on 1901 cencus. but nothing before, and i think he might have
died before 1911 cencus.
can't find his at local reg office.
thanks. would be greatful for any help.
Thanks Dawn.
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[MarkJ]

His birth is registered -

September quarter 1867
Pontypool district volume 11a page 144
Alfred Parfitt

That should get you going - order that birth certificate from the GRO :)

Mark

[Peter Goodey]

First, you need to use the GRO index

http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/

Then you'll find the following

Marriages Dec 1891
Harris Annie Elizabeth Pontypool 11a 245
Jeffries Henry Pontypool 11a 245
Johns Martha Pontypool 11a 245
Parfitt Alfred Pontypridd 11a 245

and

Births Sep 1867
Parfitt Alfred Pontypool 11a 144

or

Births Dec 1874
Parfitt Alfred Pontypool 11a 138

Now you need to order the certificates

http://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/

[gortonboy]

1871 census for TOLYGAM HOUSES,ABERYSTRUTH,MONMOUTHSHIRE.
DAVID PARFITT 50 B 1821 BORN SOMERSET
MARY PARFITT 47 B 1824 BORN SOMERSET
SARAH B1851
DAVID B 1856
MATILDA B 1860
ALFRED B 1865
ISAAC THOMAS B1870
ALL BORN MONMOUTHSHIRE
RG 11 PIECE 5317 FOLIO 50 PAGE 14
IF THIS IS HIM,,,HE ALSO APPEARS IN 1881 ,1891, IN THE LATER CENSUS HE IS LISTED AS A COALMINER ,,, REGARDS MIKE.

[lucydawn]

His birth is registered -

September quarter 1867
Pontypool district volume 11a page 144
Alfred Parfitt

That should get you going - order that birth certificate from the GRO :)

Mark
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[lucydawn]

First, you need to use the GRO index

http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/

Then you'll find the following

Marriages Dec 1891
Harris Annie Elizabeth Pontypool 11a 245
Jeffries Henry Pontypool 11a 245
Johns Martha Pontypool 11a 245
Parfitt Alfred Pontypridd 11a 245

and

Births Sep 1867
Parfitt Alfred Pontypool 11a 144

or

Births Dec 1874
Parfitt Alfred Pontypool 11a 138

Now you need to order the certificates

http://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/

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[lucydawn]

His birth is registered -

September quarter 1867
Pontypool district volume 11a page 144
Alfred Parfitt

That should get you going - order that birth certificate from the GRO :)

Mark

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[lucydawn]

His birth is registered -

September quarter 1867
Pontypool district volume 11a page 144
Alfred Parfitt

That should get you going - order that birth certificate from the GRO :)

Mark
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[lucydawn]

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Join Date:Jun 2009
Location:wales
Alfred Parfitt
hello i am still trying to locate records of alfred parfitt father joseph parfitt, joseph was married in 1862,trevethin pontypool, but his marriage certifacate was in llanhilleth. and his father was george parfitt. can't find any cencus with joseph and sarah on, can anyone help?

my gt granfather alfred was living in garndiffaith 1901 i found alfred marriage to annie harris i now know his father was joseph took a while to trace joseph and sarah but found wedding cerfifcate for them.

and joseph parfitt was george parfitt son can't find out where joseph or george was born can anyone help. do know what to do next or where to try?
Reguards.
Dawn.

[christanel]

I can't find Alfred on 1871 census but there is this on the 1881
RG11/5253/55/15
GARNDIFFAITH Trevethin Monmouthshire
Sarah Ann Gould married 34 born Trevethin
Joseph Parfit (0nly one t) son 14 shoemakers apprentice born trevethin
Alfred Parfit son 13 born trevethin
Reuben Gould 3 son Trevethin
Abraham Gould 1 son trevethin

So did Sarah Ann ?, marry Joseph Parfit(t), he died and she remarried, ? Gould, who isn't on this census with her.
I'll look some more.

[christanel]

A marriage possibility? On same page FreeBMD
Joseph Parfit (one t) and Sarah Ann Williams Dec 1/4 1862 Registration District Pontypool, vol 11a page 174.

Ok so you had this and already know Sarah's maiden name.
So did Joseph die or did they just go their own ways? I haven't found a relevant death for Joseph yet.

On the marriage certificate for Joseph and Sarah Ann what is George's occupation. Also Joseph's age and occupation?

[christanel]

As I have been searching for the Parfit(t)s I have noticed a link between Somersetshire and Wales and suspect your George or Joseph originated there. Then I found this and wonder if it is your Alfred.
1891 RG12/4361/137/7
Address: Rising Sun Inn, Cwmavon, Trevethin with Pontypool, Monmouthshire
Joshua Parfitt 55 Ironstone miner born Luton Somersetshire
Silvona Parfitt 62 wife born Varteg Monmouthshire
Mary A dau 20 general servant
Albert 16 son coal miner
Edith E 13 dau
All children born Abersychan Monmouthshire
FRED Parfitt, 23, nephew, coal miner born Garndiffaith Monmouthshire

[lucydawn]

thanks that would be great?
reguards
Dawn.

[christanel]

Hi Dawn
On the marriage certificate for Joseph and Sarah Ann what is George's occupation? Also Joseph's age and occupation?

[marmaduke123]

Have you seen the Parfitt records on here? Might help:

http:/freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~monfamilies/trevethinprt.htm

I hope this works - I can't paste a link so have typed it out. Trevethin parish records on Mike John's invaluable monfamilies website.

Anne

[lucydawn]

thanks that must be him. joseph was 19yrs old when marriage, took place llanhillith, trevethin, father name george, george was a green grocer.

joseph was a collier, and alfred is a collier, and he wed pontypool no record found there got it at gro.
thanks. where do i find out any more, what web sites?
Dawn.

[lucydawn]

george was a green grocer, and joseph was a miner, age 19 yrs when married, i loked on free bmd and latterday saints, nothing, local office pontypool, nothing, i sent to gro, for his weddin g certificate, and got it thevethin church in llanhilleth. an d if like everyones saying they lined in rising sun pub in cwnavon that would really be amazing i was brought up right by there.
thanks for looking. don't know where else to look.
Dawn.

[christanel]

1851 Ho 107/1939/248/32
Northend Clutton Somersetshire
George Parfitt 42 no occupation given
Maria wife 46
William 17 no occ
Joshua 15
John 13
Joseph 6
Alfred 3
Elizabeth 1 month
All born Clutton

1861 RG9/4009/36/4
Union Street Trevithin
George Parfett 52 Baker born Clutton DEAF
Maria 51
Joseph 16 coal miner
Alfred 13 coal miner
Elizabeth 10 scholar
All born Clutton.

This is the only Joseph Parfitt showing with a father George and a baker is close to a green grocer. So the Parfitt family did originate in Somerset. It also seems that Joseph added a couple of years to his age at his marriage in 1862, which isn't unusual.

[christanel]

1871 RG10/5333/98/58
Lower High Street Trevithin
George Parfitt 62 Baker Deaf
Maria 66
Both born Clutton
Daniel Gough son in law 24 miner born Abersychan
Elizabeth Gough dau (of George) 20 born clutton
George gough 3 grandson
Joseph P 2 grandson
Joshua 2 months
Grandchildren born Abersychan

Still looking back in 1841 for George and Maria

[christanel]

1841 Clutton Somerset
HO107/938/9/9/Book 6
George Parfitt 30 baker
Maria 35
James 10
George 9
William 7
Joshua 6
John 4
Rosi 2
All born in County

Death of Rosina Dec 1/4 1850 Clutton vol 11 page 86

[lucydawn]

thanks can you tell me where you have been looking which web sites? thanks again.
reguards Dawn.

[christanel]

I use Findmypast (FMP) and ancestry.com There are others such as The Genealogist and genesreunited. They are all pay per view sites.
Both ancestry and FMP have free two week trial periods. Maybe use one for 2 weeks then the other. Just remember to cancel before the fortnight is up or you will find yourself with a subscription you didn't want. Also I don't think the 1911 census is part of the two week free trial on FMP
Alternatively you can pay as you search but can work out rather expensive if, like your Parfitts, there are a lot of them and living in the same area.
For the births, deaths and marriages I use FreeBMD which also is on ancestry but not quite as up to date. What ancestry does have is the official GRO records for BDMs up to 2005. FMP does too and they are making the search for them more user friendly and not such a roundabout process. Otherwise take a look around their sites and see ALL the records both have to offer.