Elizabeth Powell and Daniel Langford

[Tamara L.]

I am looking for the birthplace (or any information) on Elizabeth Powell. She would have been born circa 1894 in North Wales. I understand she could speak Welsh. She married Daniel Langford (c.1896) from Ebbw Vale sometime before 1920. I am using this as a guide as their last of 8 (or 9) children was born in 1927.
Has anyone heard or come across either of them in searches? I have more on earlier Langford ancestors and Daniel's siblings.
Tamara L.

[Waitabit]

Daniel Langford & Elizabeth Powell are both on the same page of marriages in Pontypridd in Dec.1/4 1903 11a-1014.

[Waitabit]

Sorry too late to make an amendment, as the first was too early. :o
Is it possible Daniel & Elizabeth were born earlier? several people of that name born in the 1880s also. It may be that the marriage is not yet transcribed.

[Tamara L.]

Hi ~
Thanks for trying to help. My biggest problem has been the number of Elizabeth Powells born around 1890! Tons!! I know they were both dead before 1959 if that helps. I am not sure whether they came into England as a family or just the children, but if memory serves me correctly I think they all came and settled somewhere in and around Oxfordshire in the late 1930's.
If it helps Daniel's father was Stephen Langford born 1857 in Blaenavon and his mother was Hannah Blanchard born in 1864. I have nothing on the Powells I am afraid except for hearing they came from North Wales.
Tamara
PS. Their eldest two sons were named Dan and Sam.

[Waitabit]

Tamara I just had to look! 1911 census has a Daniel Langford 28 b.1883 living Pontypridd Glamorganshire.
Also at that address was Elizabeth Langford 28 b. 1883.
children present were:

children present were Samuel Langford 6 b.1905...Daniel 4 b.1907...John Langford 2 b. 1909 + James Langford 4 mths b.1910.

FreeBMD has : Samuel reg. Dec.1/4 1904
Daniel..Dec.1/4 1906.
John..Dec.1/4 1908
Jame Dec.1/4..1910

Could they be yours?

[Tamara L.]

No that isn't them. If you look at the 1901 census for Monmouthshire you will find the Daniel Langford I am looking for ... he is aged 5 in that census.
I think their sons Daniel and Sam would have been born prior to 1920. Their last child, Edward was born near Neath in February, 1927.
Tamara L.

[Waitabit]

Tamara, have you found any of Daniels Family on 1911?
I can't unless the name is misspelled. Other members appear but all over the place. "Taken from the 1901 census". Were his Parents Stephen & Hannah?
:confused: Don't like a puzzle that doesn't work out.

[Gododdin]

Hi Tamara,
Bit of a long shot perhaps, but if Elizabeth, as is reasonable at that date, was following traditional Welsh naming patterns, her first son would be named after her father-in-law and her second son after her own father. Could that possibly help you to locate Elizabeth's father?
Godo

[Tamara L.]

Daniel's parents were Stephen Langford and Hannah Blanchard. Their children were: Lily, Stephen, Laura, M.A., Minnie, John, Jonah, (then Daniel) and Willie. In the 1901 census they were living in Bedwellty, Aberstruth, in Wales.
As for Daniel Langford and Elizabeth Powell's children I am not sure of all the names ... but here goes ... Sam, Dan, Tom, Rose, Llewellyn, Brin, Walt ... with Edward being the youngest born Feb. 1927. With Edward being the youngest and his birth being registered near Neath then most likely the other children were born around the same area. There was another child as well that died young ... Graham, I believe.
I wish I could find Daniel Langford and Elizabeth Powell's marriage. Not even sure when they died although I believe it was between 1948 and 1959 in England.
Tamara L.

[Waitabit]

Tamara, I've had a lovely afternoon with your Daniels Family. Found his Dads' Family & step Father William Clark. Used that in case he married under that name for some reason. Tried down to 1911 marriages but still unable to match up Daniel & Elizabeth.
Closest I got in 1911 was to an Elizabeth Powell 13 Cardiff GLamorganshire b.1898
Her Parents eemed to be Bessie Jane b.1878 & William George b. 1876. 4 Sisters.

Not having any credits left to play with is the big blocker.Tried for his Parents too but if I found them they were not together. Really feels like a mis-spelled Name in there.

Found a Laura c.1888 with a Walter George 1884 a Frederick 5mths & walter b.1908 age 3, which loks like another Langford Family. Yep married at Henley.

Sorry not to have been more help, it still may come along from an unexpected quarter.
:)

[Tamara L.]

Hi ~
The only marriage I have found is a Daniel Langford married in Jan~March of 1918 in Bedwellty, Monmouthshire but the surname of spouse is given as Willis!! My Daniel Langford lived in Bedwellty, and the marriage date is around the right time ... but I know he married someone named Elizabeth Powell. Could her mother have remarried and her "new" father or step father's name been put in the register?
Tamara L.

[Waitabit]

I wondered the same Tamara, Elsie M. Willis married Daniel Langford 1918 Bedwelty & she died aged 24 in MAr.1923 Bedwelty.
They had two children: Aneurin C. Langford reg'd. Sep 1918 & Gwilym R.Langford Reg'd. Sep 1922 both Bedwelty.

[Tamara L.]

To: Waitabit ~
I owe you a HUGE apology along with HUGE thanks! The one you found in Pontypridd will be the correct one.
These are my in-laws so notes I have are from picking brains that don't want to be "picked" so to speak or "can't remember". It is important to me though ~ as we have two boys that will carry on this Langford surname that they (hopefully) one day appreciate knowing their full heritage ... not just my side of the family (which is still a work in progress!). Now I must hold up my hand and admit an error as I was given the original information from someone on Genes Reunited. I think Stephen and Hannah are uncle and aunt to my Daniel. I believe Daniel is the son of Stephen's brother Daniel born in 1855 who died in 1895. Unfortunately I don't know who he married. This is going to be a major task of correcting, but I thank you IMMENSELY for finding the right one. I knew Sam and Dan were they eldest, and found Sam's death in Oxford in 1995. I will write a second response with the list of children I knew of following this. (I didn't know about John or James and neither did my husband!) There was an Elizabeth who my husband believed died young.
Thanks again~ Tamara L.

[Tamara L.]

This is in addition to the last posted thread on the Daniel Langford and Elizabeth Powell saga. Now I must look for Daniel's parents as well as Elizabeth's ancestral line! Here are their children as far as I know (now).
Sam (b.1904 ~ d. Dec.1994), Dan (b.1906), John & James (?), Llewellyn (b.1912), Tom (b. 1914) ... these children were all born in Pontypridd, Glamorgan. Then Rose (b1917), Elizabeth A. (b.1919), Walter (b.1921 ... he just died a couple of years ago), Brinley (b. 1923), Beatie (b.1925), Edward (b.1927 ~ d. Jan.2000). These six were born in or had their births registered in Neath.
Now to find the grandparents of these 12 children!!
Tamara L.

[Waitabit]

To: Waitabit ~
I owe you a HUGE apology along with HUGE thanks! The one you found in Pontypridd will be the correct one.
Thanks again~ Tamara L.

No you don't, it's been hugely interesting, but thankyou. It's so good to find the 'right' Family yes? even if it's some-one elses. Sooooo, let's get in there & find the rest. :)

[Jellylegs]

I was looking at this thread yesterday and hope you don't mind me joining in.

From the latest names you have provided, I think the following may be yours.

On FreeBMD Edward Langford and Rebecca Thomas are listed under marriages in the Sep Quarter of 1841 in Abergavenny (Vol 26 Pg 21)

I think I have found them in the following censuses (on A*)

1851 Wales Census (HO107; Piece 2447; Folio 93; Page 2) together with children
James (8)
Aron (5)
Sarah (3)
Ann (1 month)
Sarah THOMAS (65)
John BECKETT (35)

1861 Wales Census (RG9; 3995; 78; 23)
Rebecca (transcribed Prubekale) - Widow
James (17)
Aron (15)
Sarah (13)
Ann (11)
Mary (7)
Daniel (6)
Stephen (4)

1871 Wales Census (RG10; 5314; 63; 8)
Rebecca is married to a William Clark and living with them are
Ann, Mary, Daniel, Stephen and Abraham (age 8)

1881 Wales Census (RG11; 5239; 31; 33)
William and Rebecca CLARK
Stephen
Abraham
Chas Rees Langford (6) - nephew born Abergavenny

FreeBMD has Rebecca LANGFORD and William CLARK listed under marriages in the Sep Quarter 1866 Abergavenny(Vol 11a Pg 191)

Sorry, but don't have time to look for more - got to get to sleep. Hope these are yours.

Jellylegs