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lorraine66
19-06-2009, 8:47 AM
looking for parents of henry thirkle born 1848 morpeth. His parents on any census records. He is on census but with his aunt. Been looking for a year now. Thanks

Peter Goodey
19-06-2009, 10:30 AM
If you mean HO 107/2418 f 232 p 51, the final letter of the surname looks to me like "d" and the boy's age is shown as 7.

If I were you I would consider

Births Sep 1843

Threlkeld Henry Morpeth 25 313

Peter Goodey
19-06-2009, 10:33 AM
Note also the comment in FreeBMD to the effect that the "r" in the surname is spurious. Having checked the original, I wouldn't disagree with that claim.

lorraine66
21-06-2009, 3:16 PM
hello Peter

Mother-n-law insisting spelling wrong but I'm going to check that one out anyway, she not into family history or anything. thanks

Ultramum
21-01-2011, 11:21 AM
I can help with this one ...

Down as Henry Thirkeld on LDS for baptism date - 16 Jul 1843 Morpeth

and again as Thirkleld in 1851 census living at Alms Houses Cottingwood Lane, Morpeth with Mary as head, Margaret her sister (born 1819) and Henry down as nephew

census is in the possession of TNA ... HO107 piece 2418 folio 232 page 51 (hope I did the reference correctly)

However in 1861 he is living with Mary at the same place but with sister Sarah (born 1809) and is down as Henry Threlkeld (nephew) again so not sure if Margaret or Sarah is his mother!

census is in the possession of TNA ... RG number: RG09 Piece: 3871 Folio: 108 Page: 30

I have found what I think are details of Mary's parents if you are interested ...

Thomasin
21-01-2011, 1:52 PM
By 1871 Henry (now Thirkle) is a widower with a son William H, aged 5, still at the same address with Mary and Sarah. RG10; 5164; 45; 31.

Thomasin
21-01-2011, 2:20 PM
Could this be Mary and Margaret in 1841? (All b. Northumberland.)

Robert Tulley Smith 25 Tailor
Ann Smith 25
Thomas Smith 2
Mary Smith 2
Elizabeth Smith (2 weeks)
Mary THURKEL 30 Ag lab
Charles THURKEL 20 Ag lab
Margaret THURKEL 25 Ag lab
John Cross 65 Lab
Elizabeth Cross 60
Esther Gibson 10

Newgate Street, Morpeth
HO107; 835; 12/5; 3

Thomasin
21-01-2011, 2:31 PM
This looks like Charles's baptism on 28th July 1818 at Morpeth, parents Henry and Sarah Threlkeld. (Northumberland and Durham baptisms.) I assume he is the brother of Mary and Margaret.

That's strange. Margaret was baptised the same year, same parents, on 2nd March (1818).

Ultramum
21-01-2011, 7:49 PM
Yes - just popped back to say they were Thurkel in 1841! Nightmare surname for soundex searches!

Ultramum
21-01-2011, 7:56 PM
By 1871 Henry (now Thirkle) is a widower with a son William H, aged 5, still at the same address with Mary and Sarah. RG10; 5164; 45; 31.

That was after his marriage to a Mary Scott in 1865 - son is William Hudspeth (?) born in Morpeth 1866 ... there was also a daughter to the same parents - Sarah Jane in 1867 - assume she died young

Henry then marries a Margaret Ann (variously Jane!) Downey (Downie) in 1873 and goes on to have another 10 or 11 children!

Ultramum
21-01-2011, 8:01 PM
This looks like Charles's baptism on 28th July 1818 at Morpeth, parents Henry and Sarah Threlkeld. (Northumberland and Durham baptisms.) I assume he is the brother of Mary and Margaret.

That's strange. Margaret was baptised the same year, same parents, on 2nd March (1818).

Henry and Sarah Threlkeld were quite prolific with 9 children ranging from Mary in 1800 (born variously in Middlesex and Morpeth!) ... found a Middlesex birth on LDS that may be hers ... on my to do list! - through to Isabella in 1822 - with varying degrees of Thirkle, Threlkeld, Thirkeld and Thurkel enroute!

Where did you get the baptism info from BTW?

Ultramum
21-01-2011, 8:08 PM
Henry manages to be in two places at once in the 1891 Census - Muggers Nook Morpeth as a lodger, still a tailor but also with wife and children at 62 George Street, Tynemouth. Haven't got to the bottom of that one yet - unless he was away at the time of the census but his wife still put him down!

Thomasin
22-01-2011, 12:22 AM
Where did you get the baptism info from BTW?

From the collection of parish registers on FindmyPast.

Ultramum
22-01-2011, 5:45 PM
From the collection of parish registers on FindmyPast.

Off there to have a look - thank you :-)