1844 case?

[jobarbra]

This may be an impossible question but did the mother have to register an illegitimate child? i.e bastardy papers?
I have a relative who's mother registered the father on the birth certificate and the parents were not married so I'm not sure if you had to register the baby under anything else?|help|
George Mackinder Baldock; Holbeach, Lincoln Dec 1843. Was christened George Thomas Baldock; no father present.

[Pam Downes]

Hi Jobrabra,
Not sure [/URL]if [URL="http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/LIN/poorbastard.html"]this link (http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/LIN/bastardycases.html) will be of any help.
Scroll down to the bottom of the page to find a link to newspaper reports.
Unfortunately I can't readily find/think which court sessions Holbeach would be under.
Pam

[Spangle]

Lincolnshire Archives might be of interest. The website is not as fully-searchable as Cambs, where a lot of my family are, but if the staff at Lincs are as helpful and kind you may well be in luck and find settlement/bastardy information and the like.
http://microsites.lincolnshire.gov.uk/Archives/section.asp?catId=6647

[jobarbra]

I know that the parents were cohabiting and then the father was sent to jail 1 month after the baby was born (and so was the mother) so I'm thinking that no bastardy papers were written up as the father was happy to help? Or is this no the way it worked back then??

[georgiep]

Hi All
I believe it was not compulsary to register a birth until 1875.
If the father wasn't present to give permission for his name to be listed, the birth had "father unknown".
Many people prior to 1875 did not have the money to pay for the rego.

Georgie

[georgiep]

Morning All
I looked in Nat** Arch**could find anything for area for bast**dy papers.
Aarrgh, is George in the Union Workhouse in 1851 with mother & sibs including twin girls?

Kind regards
Georgie

[georgiep]

I should gather all info before I post!
The older son boy John is in 1841 mother Ann & two sisters Ann & Charlotte.
Their baptisms in IGI father Wm.
There is a marriage in 1832 Holbeach for Wm to Mrs Anne Baldock.
It was submitted by an LDS member but there is a batch number.
Our forum folk will be able to tell you how to order the film and if it will be of any help.
Just to add, my search mentioned, at the time I thought George was the one and only.
I just hope I have the correct family.

Kind regards
Georgie

[Kerrywood]

If the father wasn't present to give permission for his name to be listed, the birth had "father unknown".

Not quite, and in any case it depends on the date. Have a read here (http://home.clara.net/dixons/Certificates/births.htm#COL4) for an explanation of this complicated subject. ;)


Many people prior to 1875 did not have the money to pay for the rego.

Registration was free. It is only the copy certificate which costs.

So-called bastardy papers generally relate to the period before 1834, when the new Poor Law was introduced. You're unlikely to find anything at the National Archives. As Spangle has already said, the Lincolnshire RO is the place to go, for any sessions papers that might relate :)

Kerrywood

[jobarbra]

Thanks for the info.

The family found is the right family as any query I set out tends to go back to William and Ann Baldock, but George had a different father and so did Emma and Martha :o

I'm pretty sure George's father was Thomas Mackinder as this is on the birth certificate and the IGI registers a christening of George Thomas Baldock, mother Ann but no father. Don't know who Emma and Martha's father is as it wasn't Thomas as he was sent to Tasmania!

[georgiep]

Okies
We didn't know all the info at the start of your post about twins father etc.
You have anther post on the go about Ann.
Perhaps our moderator could blend them?
It is getting confusing.
Thank you everyone

Georgie

[ChristineR]

http://www.british-genealogy.com/forums/showthread.php?t=45609

I do not think that there is any need to merge this thread with the other.
Jobarbra was only asking about what was required to register an illegitimate birth as far as the father was concerned and how those sort of things were done in those days. Since Jobarbra was not specifically asking for anyone to look up anything about the people concerned,there was no need for more details to be mentioned in the opening post. I think the answers to the opening query have now been supplied.
:)