Napthali Asher Hart MD

[phillip]

I am tracing the 'missing' relatives in my Aaron Hart and Ann Rebecca Hart nee Crawcour lines and looking for any data on their son Napthali Asher Hart b 4 May 1858 Rose Lawn Cottage Oval Kennington Surrey. Napthali married Edmee Richards ( daughter of Marion Greatorex and Alfred Bate Richards) in 1887 and on her death in 1897 was recorded as stock broke dealer although he was also a Doctor of Medicine. He had dropped the first name Napthali and called himself Asher. The two children from his marriage - Rosina Marjorie b1892 and Alfred b ? were placed in the Hambro Orphanage- records of 1908 show them at the orphanage. Rosina went to Australia but on her return to the UK married Frederick Frost in 1932.
Asher was also supposed to have settled in Australia and the NSW records show the death of an Asher Hart in 1937 although on his daughter's marriage certificate in 1932 he was said to be deceased.

If any researchers have information on Asher or his daughter Rosina I would welcome contact.
Phillip

[Spangle]

Hi,

I don't know if it is relevent but I have a copy of "Jewish London, An Illustrated History". Within it there is a mention of a Mrs Judith Levy, the daughter of Moses Hart (and a picture of her too). Mrs Levy was the main benefactor of the rebuildinng of the Great Synagogue in 1790.

There is a little more detail - please let me know if Moses and Judith are part of your Hart family and I will give you the rest of it> I can scan and send you the drawing of Judith too if it helps and you are happy to pm me your email address.

[Spangle]

PS Phillip - do you have a Maria Levy, daughter of M Levy (sorry, thats all I have), in your tree?

I ask as I have a Maria Levy, married Simon Oppenheim, London 1822.

I'd be delighted to share information if so.

Best regards,

Spangle

[phillip]

Many thanks Spangle for your kind offer to help. I do not believe that my Hart line are currently connected to your Levy and the Hart's in the Gt Synagogue data. I have seen this data some time ago and could see no connection but I know nothing earlier than my Benjamin and Henry Hart 4x great grandfathers who died circa 1836 and pre 1841 respectively. Currently I have no data on their parents/siblings.I do have Myers in my line namely Jacob Myers my 5x great grandfather and his daughter Phoebe who married Henry Hart. I have speculated that my Myers line maybe connected to the Myers of Maldon line but have no proof.
I also hold copies of some of the Colyer Fergusson Levy data including will summaries and in addition do have various Levy relatives who married into my Hart and Crawcour lines.
I will take a look at this data and if I see any links will let you know.
Phillip

[Spangle]

Sorry it wasn't of more use Phillip. Happy hunting.

[Sue Mackay]

There does seem to have been a link to an earlier Napthali Hart mentioned in connection with a Judith Levy. See here (http://books.google.com/books?id=oWQwAAAAIAAJ&pg=PA487&dq=Napthali+Hart&ei=H-YDSpvwOYjCyQTot5GQBQ)

I entered Napthali Hart into Google book search and there were quite a few hits, although not all 'Full View' like this one.

Aha, this page (http://books.google.com/books?id=wUYwAAAAIAAJ&pg=PA40&dq=Napthali+Hart&ei=H-YDSpvwOYjCyQTot5GQBQ) says that this Napthali Hart died in December 1828 without direct issue, having inherited from Judith Levy, so perhaps your Asher was given the name Napthali in his honour?

[phillip]

Dear Sue
I have numbers of Hart/Crawcour/Jacobs links to Levy and here are three:
Gentleman's Magazine 1850
In Brompton Crescent at the residence of her son in law Abraham Crawcour esq aged 71, Sophia relict of Joseph Levy esq of Bristol

GRO Marriage certificate 10 November 1850
Gt Synagogue John Levy batchelor full age -fruiterer 53 Gem Street Spitalfields- father-Isaac Levy -deceased
Hannah Crawcour full age spinster- no occupation- same address as groom- father- Henry Crawcour- deceased.

Lewis Hart of 7 Hollywell St was married to Julia Levy

Thanks
for looking
Phillip

[phillip]

This post provides new data on Napthali Asher Hart aka Asher aka Arthur Robert Hart. The publication online of new records has enabled me to identify that Napthali Asher Hart aka Asher Hart aka Arthur Robert Hart were one in the same person.
I have posted threads on the parents of Napthali Asher Hart ( see Aaron Hart-Ann Rebecca Crawcour 12.07.2014) and on the wife of Napthali ( see Edmee Greatorex Hart nee Richards 22.07. 2009).

On the death of Aaron Hart in 1887 -father of Napthali- I was puzzled to see that his will referred to a son Arthur Robert Hart. This son did not appear in any census records or birth records associated with Aaron. Although I researched Arthur and Napthali in great detail and obtained a range of records I could not locate any Arthur. Similarly, post the death of Edmee wife of Napthali I could not locate Napthali ( he had begun to call himself Asher). I have already posted on earlier threads that the two children of Napthali and Edmee- Rosina and Alfred- were placed in the Hambro Jewish Orphanage.
Yesterday, looking at any new records on a Arthur Robert Hart I discovered that Napthali had changed his name and joined the army in 1879.
The UK Royal Hospital Chelsea Pensioners Soldier service records 1760-1920 provided 16 pages of the full service record for Napthali aka Asher aka Arthur Robert Hart.

Napthali for whatever reason had changed his name and his religion but not his dob, trade or the address where his father was living in 1879-1881.

The records show- Arthur Robert Hart b abt 1858 Lambeth Surrey Book maker next of kin Arthur ( this is a cover up of his father's real first name of Aaron) father's address 65 King Edward's Road Victoria Park.
Importantly, this is the same address for Aaron Hart in the 1881 census- RG11 313 86 10 ( Copyright,TNA)
65 King Edward's Road Hackney London
Aaron Hart H Widower 72 out of business b Middx Whitechapel
Eva dau u 30 b Middx Whitechapel
Grace dau u 18 b Surrey Lambeth
Bernard son u 26 Shoe Manufacturer b Surrey Lambeth
+1 servant

Napthali aka Asher aka Arthur Robert Hart had enlisted in 1879 27 October - Aldershot. He was appointed to the Army hospital Corp and transferred to Army reserve 21 Nov 1885. He described his religion as Wesleyan. His physical description was 5 feet 7 inches; chest 35 inches; complexion fresh; eyes grey;hair brown. Age on enlistment 21 years 6 months unmarried.
He served at home 27.10.1879-16.8.82; Cyprus 7.8.82-28.9.82;Egypt 29.9.82-17.1.84;Home 18.1.84-24.9.84;Egypt 25.9.84-11.11.85;Home 12.11.85-26.10.91.
Discharged 26 Oct 1891 Army Medical Corp -Private- Good Conduct. He enlisted for Section "D" 14 Oct 1891 for 4 years until his discharge from the Army Medical Staff Corp 26 Oct 1895 as a private.

Although on his GRO Marriage Certificate to Edmee Richards in 1887 he called himself a Doctor of Medicine it is clear that he was never a qualified doctor ( I have searched the UK and other medical records for qualified doctors and his name does not appear).
Edmee died in 1897 and Napthali aka Asher aka Arthur Robert "disappears". What became of him is still unknown.
Phillip

[phillip]

The trade for Arthur Robert Hart aka Napthali Asher should read BOOT MAKER on his enlistment ( a slip of the keyboard). Arthur aka Napthali aka Asher medical record shows he had bronchitis on 3 occasions; Small pox; dyspepsia.
Phillip

[photograham]

Hi Phillip, well, I have now started my lines back from Grace Hart (and William Hanson eventually) and are working on the family of Aaron Henry Hart. I am presently looking at your writing about Napthali Asher Hart, and Arthur Robert Hart, and can see a "dead end" for both so far. I know you have done more research on these 2 siblings than I have so far, and your writings, from my understanding so far, indicate to you that they are 1 and the same person.
I was wondering if you have anything new since your Nov '16 post that may provide additional proof of this assumption, even though your information in that post provides pretty solid indications.
My initial data searches with all of these Hart siblings is proving very interesting so far.
Regards, and looking forward to your response. Graham Anderson

[phillip]

Hi Graham
In answer to your question regarding Napthali Asher Hart aka Arthur Robert Hart I am still researching what happened to him. The family story is that he went to Australia to evade arrest.This particular line has very close relationships to my father's paternal line and I have not put all the data I have on the BG Forum because it is private. The early data has been shared with a direct descendant of Napthali but we have not been in contact for several years and the family were very close friends of my father.
I have written a major data base on every sibling of Grace plus her parents going right back as far as I can. I have put a lot of the data on BG but not all of it and not photographs etc. The data base covers all my paternal Anglo Jewish lines in great detail with supporting records.
I will not make this data available because some elements are private and affect living individuals.

At present, I am adding new data to my research from the Jewish Chronicle to the data base and will post if relevant.
If I do locate Asher ( we believe he changed his names) then I will post.
In addition, with regard to Flora and Eva the siblings of Grace who settled in Honolulu I was also in contact with a descendant of Flora and hold photographs and other data on the Flora line up to the present. The line for Eva stopped when she died. Again, I have not posted all the data because there are private elements including living individuals and the same applies to some of the other siblings of Grace.
On my death I intend to leave the data base ( now almost 1000 pages to the Jewish Genealogical Society of Great Britain).
Best wishes
Phillip

[phillip]

Hi Graham
As you know there are numbers of family trees on Ancestry.Com on my lines. These trees vary in terms of accuracy and quality and I note that in some cases my great grandparents and earlier had children born that were nothing to do with my family the only association being a common name. In short, these trees are 'not worth a can of beans' as my father used to comment.

Wherever possible on BG I have posted supporting data on my lines so my suggestion is to look closely at these and let me know if you want any additional data.
Phillip

[Davidus]

Phillip,
There is some fascinating reading on your research of Hart ancestors. I have just registered on this site so I am not sure if I have entered at a suitable place. Anyway, my maternal grandparents were Lewis Ellis Hart (also Ellis Lewis), b. 06 Jun 1877, d. 03 Apr 1919; Clara Moses, b.03 Jul 1880, d. Feb 1968, m. 29 Oct 1901, all in London, UK. I have a lot more data about these families and ancestors and I wonder if we have any in common?
David

[phillip]

I am away at present and will respond on my return. My Hart lines did marry into the Moses via Rosa Hart and Henry Moses. These lines are well documented by two of my distant cousins on World Connect some 10 years ago or more.
Phillip

[phillip]

David
I have looked at the Ancestry.Com family trees plus census data on Lewis and Clara and do not see any links between your lines and my Hart/Moses. However, I do not know who, if any, were the siblings of my 4x great grandfather Benjamin Hart. Neither do I know who the line of Henry Moses descended from. My Hart line beginning with Benjamin Hart who died circa 1836 were all clothiers/tailors and I have data on each of Benjamin's children including Rosa Hart who married Henry Moses also in the clothes trade.

My thinking is to keep all options open on the lines. I note your Hart/Moses were fruiterers whereas my 2 Hart lines were in the clothes and shoe/boot trades.

It is possible that there were relationships between the lines so I am noting the names who relate to you and any data you have on your Lewis Hart/Clara Moses would prove useful if you posted it on a new thread.
This would alert other researchers who may be related.
Phillip

[phillip]

I am adding this new piece of data to this thread and researchers are advised to see the thread Rosina Marjorie Hart-Alfred Aaron Hart for updates.

I have added the GRO Marriage Certificate for Alfred Aaron aka Aaron Alfred Hart to the Rosina and Alfred thread.
The Certificate confirms that Alfred/Aaron had not died young and married in 1918 Elizabeth Kate POPLE daughter of William Pople. The thread also adds a range of data on the lines.

[phillip]

I have re-visited the Army record for Napthali Asher Hart aka Arthur Robert Hart and noted that he stated he had served in the 1/60 Rifles but under the name ARTHUR ROBERTS.
His 1879 joining record stated that he had previous military service and in response to the question had he served prior to the current enlistment the recorded comment was.."Yes,321 days in the 1/60 Rifles under the name Arthur Roberts, not produced any parchment certified of discharge"

I have looked at the British Army Discharges 60th Foot 1854-1880 but can see no record for an Arthur Roberts. The length of service seems very short and why he used another alias is not known.

There appears for whatever reason to be a cover up of his real identity and name.

The current data now indicates he used at least 2 alias Arthur Robert Hart aka Arthur Roberts and the title MD on his marriage certificate. In addition, he lied about his father's name Aaron calling him Arthur on his enlistment.

His service record shows that he was in the army on home service when Alfred Aaron aka Aaron Alfred his son was born in 1888 and his daughter Rosina Marjorie. He also married when he was in the army.

The current failure for me to locate in 1891 Alfred, Rosina and Edmee plus Arthur aka Napthali Asher Hart maybe because they are recorded on army base records in the census.

Given that Napthali was used to using alias names it is possible that he adopted another one following the death of his wife Edmee and particularly so if the family story about him leaving the country to avoid the police is true. The last record of him has his occupation as a stock broker dealer which raises the question where he got the money from to enter into that occupation.

[phillip]

The Forces War Records show an Arthur Roberts Private 1878 60th Rifles.There is another A Roberts Service No 2371 Private 4th Battalion 60th (Kings Royal Rifle Corp 1871 and A Roberts Sergeant 1879 60th Foot Service No 3202. It is unlikely that Napthali Asher Hart b 1858 is the same person as the A Roberts 1871 but no indication as to whether or not Arthur Roberts 1878 and A Roberts 1871 are one in the same.
I have yet to access these records. The 1878 record appears to be a transcription and not the full attestation record as per the Arthur Robert Hart documents which include his full service.
The Discharge section of Arthur Robert Hart in 1895 gives an address of 135 Blythe Road Hammersmith which appears to be where he was living possibly with his wife Edmee and children but this is not recorded.