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jobarbra
15-04-2009, 11:54 AM
I'm looking into the possibility of having a relative sent to Tasmania about 1844, Thomas Mackinder and Ann Baldock imprisoned around the same time, guessing in Lincolnshire. I there anyway of finding out finer details?:) Not sure what would have happened to the children....maybe a work house?

Hugh Thompson
15-04-2009, 12:09 PM
Hi Jobarbra, I have these from the State Library of Queensland.
I will try and see where they landed.
Hugh.:)

Convict transportation registers database

http://www.slq.qld.gov.au/info/fh/convicts


Baldock, Ann
[Ann Baldock, one of 130 convicts transported on the William Bryan, 13 June 1833 ]

Mackinder, Thomas
[Thomas Mackinder, one of 270 convicts transported on the William Jardine, 10 August 1844 ]

Hugh Thompson
15-04-2009, 12:33 PM
From the Archives Office of Tasmania.
When you go to this site, and search for the convict you are after, click on the Database number on the left and you can view that person's details.
Hugh.
Archives Office of Tasmania.

http://portal.archives.tas.gov.au/menu.aspx?search=11


Baldock Ann ...Arrivals, 23 Oct 1833 .Ship, William Bryan Departed London,04 Jul 1833 .

Mackinder Thomas. Arrivals.20 Nov 1844 Ship.William Jardine (1) Departed London.11 Aug 1844.

Sue Mackay
15-04-2009, 12:47 PM
Hi Jobarbra. If you are interested in the name MACKINDER from Lincolnshire you may be interested in the letter in post 1 here (http://www.british-genealogy.com/forums/showthread.php?t=21390&highlight=Creasey+Lamden) John Mackinder did not sail with the 1820 settlers as far as I know.

Pam Downes
15-04-2009, 2:07 PM
Hi Jobarbra,
Thomas Mackinder's crime is detailed in the Lincolnshire Convicts (http://microsites.lincolnshire.gov.uk/Archives/section.asp?catId=6722) database.
There's also a bit about Ann Baldock with his crime, but I haven't searched the database with Ann as a convict, so there may be some more info there.
Pam

jobarbra
16-04-2009, 10:25 AM
How do I find out which prison she went to?? She would have also had a few kids?

From the Liconshire archives:
'Ann Baldock of Holbeach, widow, aged 31, was sentenced to 6 months imprisonment for receiving the stolen goods.|oopsredfa

Pam Downes
16-04-2009, 12:35 PM
Hi Jobarbra,
I would have thought that Ann would have been imprisoned in Lincoln, but it's always dangerous to assume. :)
Lincolnshire Archives might be able to provide more information. Send them the link to Thomas' web page, as that lists all the documents. You should also be able to order (copies of!) those documents for yourself. Archives will be able to advise you of the cost. You can often have them put on CD for an extra few quid.
Pam

romac
18-04-2011, 2:06 AM
Hi,
I have just replied to one of your other posts.
Please contact me. Cheers

jobarbra
07-05-2011, 4:37 PM
Anyone good at reading old prison records??

http://search.archives.tas.gov.au/ImageViewer/image_viewer.htm?CON33-1-62,278,159,F,37

The part under remarks.............does the last sentance say absconded......then gassed??!

Kerrywood
07-05-2011, 4:45 PM
I would say he absconded on 14.7.50, and a notice for his return was published in the Tasmanian Gazette on 30.7.50.

jobarbra
07-05-2011, 4:52 PM
I would say he absconded on 14.7.50, and a notice for his return was published in the Tasmanian Gazette on 30.7.50.

As there's nothing else after this remark, would you assume he absconded and stayed adrift?!

Kerrywood
07-05-2011, 4:58 PM
As there's nothing else after this remark, would you assume he absconded and stayed adrift?!
I can't see an entry with a later date on this page, so perhaps that's correct?

spison
07-05-2011, 9:35 PM
Jobarbra I'd agree with Kerrywood. The authorities in Tasmania were very thorough in the later years. I have seen one conduct report that fills the page and the powers that be added a notation 'New Book' AND my ancestor applied for a pension in about 1905 and EVEN AT THAT LATE DATE, his convict record contained the notation concerning his application and his address in NSW at the time of the application.

The influx to the mainland of escaped and freed convicts even caused Victoria (Australia) to implement special laws restricting behaviour. (I've forgotten the details so don't ask.)

Have you tried searching for him in the Australian newspapers?

http://trove.nla.gov.au/

Jane