BURNETT, kirkcudbrightshire, scotland

[popsy21]

looking for an annie burnett born 1869, kirkcudbrightshire.daughter of margaret sherrie born 1841 died 1917 a spinster. margaret was daughter of francis sherrie born 1817 and elizabeth nee barr.

[Pandad]

This looks like the ones you are looking for, at least it has all the names you mentioned.

Francis Sherrie/Head/64(1817)/Ag Lab/Kelton, Kirkcudbridght
Elizabeth Sherrie/Wife/63(1818)/Kirkcudbridght
William Sherrie/Son/23(1858)/Ag Lab/Borue, Kirkcudbridght
Margaret Sherrie/Dau/40/Formerly Cook/Kirkcudbridght
Annie Bennett/Granddau/13/Scholar/Tongland, Kirkcudbridght

Source:Scottish 1881
863/Crossmichael, Kirkcudbright/Auchendolly Cottages/ED 2/Sch 29/Line 13

From *A* Scottish data so only index viewed and not actual census image

[popsy21]

yes, these are the same ones, can't seem to find any info out about francis, where born or parents names, this as far back as i could get. he would be my 3x g,grandfather. cant find his birth in parish registers but then maybe he wasnt born in kirkcudbrightshire. can you suggest anywhere else i could check, thanx

[Pandad]

Maybe this is why? Found them in 1871, but under the name McSherry.

Francis McSherry/Head/54/(1817)/Ag Lab/Kelton, Kirkcdbtsh
Elizabeth McSherry/Wife/53(1818)/Ag Labs Wife/Kirkcudbright, Kirkcdbtsh
Margaret McSherry/Dau/30(1819)/Ag Lab Daughter/Kirkcudbright, Kirkcdbtsh
William McSherry/Son/13(1858)/Scholar/Borgue, Kirkcdbtsh
Francis McSherry/Son/19(1852)/Scholar/Girthon, Kirkcdbtsh
Eliza McSherry/Dau/7(1854)/Scholar/Tonglang, Kirkcdbtsh
Annie Bennet/Granddau/3(1868)/Tonglang, Kirkcdbtsh

Source: 1871 Scottish Census
881/Tongland/Barstibly Cothouse/ED1 /Sch 62/ Line 2

From *A* Scottish data so only index viewed not actual census image.

[Pandad]

Correction to previous entry:
Year of Birth for Eliza should read 1864 and not 1854 as displayed.

[Pandad]

Possible 1861 for Francis

Francis McCherry/Visitor/45(1816)/Farm Labourer Visitor/Kelton

He is with the Carter family, Robert, 55, Sheppard, Kelton who has
Wife Mary, 45
Dau Mary, 9
Son John, 7
Son Omar, 5
Son William, 2

Source: 1861 Scottish Census
858/Borgue/Braidfield Cot House/ED 2/Sch 35/Line 13

From *A* Scottish data so only index viewed not actual census image.

All other members of the Sherrie, McSherry, McCherry family seem to have gone to ground. Searched for Elizabeth, Margaret, William and Francis individually but could not find them as a family group.

The place of birth for Francis is consistent within census, but his surname is not. I would therefore suggest a seach of the OPR using at least the 3 variations above for birth, baptish, marriage etc.

[Pandad]

Found a possible William McSherrie in 1891.

William McSherrie/Head/32(859)/Shepherd/Borgue,Kirkcudbright
with sons William 12 and Thomas 9, both born Rerrick, but no wife listed.

Source 1891 Scottish Census
879/Rerrick/Mosside Cottages/ED 3/Sch 4/Line 3

From *A* Scottish data so only index viewed and not census image.

[popsy21]

pandad, please dont think i rude, i just read all that you found for me and i very impressed. i just finished 12 hour shift and couldn't wait to get home and check site. but now i need to sleep and will check my data and get back to you tomorrow. all i can say was i have tried all the variants of sherrie, mcsherrie etc.. and couldnt find anything, so i'm impressed! It actually makes me feel bit dumb but i'll get over it! THANX once again.|wave|

[Pandad]

Popsy.

Slow down, take it easy |snore|, plenty of time |book2| , no rush |shakehead

Enjoy the sleep, after a 12 hour shift you deserve it

[Pandad]

1861 - Parish: 866/Girthon, Kirkcudbright, Gategell Burn Cottage/ED: 6/ Page: 4/Line: 10

All under the name CHERRY

Frances M Cherry/Head/45(1816)/Shepherd/Ketton, Kirkcudbt
Elizabeth/Wife/44(1817)/Kirkcudbt, Kirkcudbt
Margaret/Dau/21(1840)/Kirkcudbt, Kirkcudbt
Alexander/Son/14(1847)/Scholar/Borgue, Kirkcudbt
Robert/Son/11(1850)/Scholar/Borgue, Kirkcudbt
James/Son/8(1853)/Scholar/Twynholm, Kirkcudbt
Thomas/Son/5(1856)/Scholar/Borgue, Kirkcudbt
Francis/Son/1 month(1861)/Girthon, Kirkcudbt

The first 3 names, ages and places of birth fit, but Francis, the final name, year of birth is different (born Feb/Mar 1861), but place of birth is the same. This family is a good possibility?

What you really need to do is view the ACTUAL census images to confirm the data recorded in the *A* index is correct and elimanate transcription errors. Need to do that for ALL the census data and satisfy yourself the data supplied by *A* is accurate.

To confirm address in between census you could check Valuation Rolls. These were compiled from 1855 by County and Burgh Assessors and list properties, their owners, tennents etc. This would also give you a check on the surname as well.

You need confirmation of the Family Surname as you and the indexes have thrown up Sherrie, McSherrie, McSherry and now Cherry. Did you notice the additional initial 'M' in the Heads name above? Should it be 'M' or 'Mc'?

If you think this family is a good candidate obtaining the birth certificate for Francis, born Feb/Mar 1861, would be a good choice, this would also supply the marriage details for the parents.

[Pandad]

1851 - Parish: 858/Borgue, Kirkcudbright, Upper Senwick/ED: 3/Page: 7/Line: 5

Francis McCherry/Head/35(1816)/Farm Labourer/Kirkcudbt, Kirkcudbt
Elizabeth Barr/Wife/34(1817)/Ireland
Margaret McCherry/Dau/11(1840)/Scholar/Borgue, Kirkcudbt
Rebecca McCherry/Dau/9(1842)/Scholar/Borgue, Kirkcudbt
John McCherry/Son/7(1844)/At Home/Borgue, Kirkcudbt
Alexander McCherry/Son/4(1847)/At Home/Borgue, Kirkcudbt
Robert McCherry/Son/2(1849)/At Home/Borgue, Kirkcudbt

I highlighted Elizabeth because place of birth change to Ireland
Is Barr her maiden name of second christian name?

Onwards and upwards - only 1841 to find |idea|

[popsy21]

hi its me again, managed to check birth certificates of several of the names you gave me and yes it appears they belong to francis and elizabeth.[ we always wondered bout surname because my gran said her mother in law used to sweep the muck under the carpet! we never knew if she meant literally or not. now we do.] i had found three kids for them and now with yr help i have 10. i found their marriage certificate from 1838 but unfortunately i couldnot see the parents section but will keep searching. i also found them in1841 census, according to it elizabeth barr was born in scotland.
francis's parents were john mcsherrie and margaret girr but cant find them at moment but i suppose they could be wayback in 1790's, but will keep trying.
thank you once again for your help.

[Pandad]

Well Popsy, at least you are moving in the right direction, and that is the main aim. Slowly, slowly catch a monkey comes to mind.

I had a look around the 1841 but could not locate the family under the Mc/Sherrie combination of names. By 1841 only looking for parents plus one child, becomes more difficult. You say you found them and that Elizabeth Barr was born in Scotland? Under what surname, and where, did you find the family in the 1841? Just curious.

Happy hunting and enjoy the search.

[popsy21]

couldn't get anything in 1841 using mc sherrie so went and entered barr elizabeth and sure as anything they came up with francis and margaret.

[Pandad]

Whilst looking for where you found them I found this entry in the 1841

F McSherrey/25/Ag Lab/Kirkcudbrightshire, Scotland
Elizabeth McSherrey/20/Kirkcudbrightshire, Scotland
Margt McSherrey/1/Kirkcudbrightshire, Scotland

Source: 1841/871/Kirkcudbright/Stokerton Cottage/ED 4A/Page 2/Line 930

With the rounding down of ages in 1841 census, the ages match.

[DKHande]

I am researching Bennet(t) genealogy in the general area of Tongland, Kirkcudbrightshire. Has anyone determined who the father of Annie Bennett is? I see that her father's name is not provided on her birth registration. It would be interesting to solve this mystery.

[Pandad]

You did not provide much information to go on and therefore assume you refer to the lead thread #1 for Annie BURNETT, Kirkcudbrightshire, Scotland born 1869.

Tried ‘A’ Scotland who only provide abstracted census date – no images.

1901/ Kirkcudbrightshire (439)/Rerrick; ED: 2; Page: 14; Line: 15; Roll: CSSCT1901_439.

Annie Bennett
Age: 29
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1872
Relationship: Niece
Gender: Female
Where born: Tongland, Kirkcudbrightshire
Registration Number: 879
Registration district: Rerrick
Civil Parish: Rerrick
County: Kirkcudbrightshire
Address: Bankhead
Occupation: Outworker
ED: 2
Household schedule number: 63
LINE: 14
Roll: CSSCT1901_439
Household Members:
Name Age
William Sherrie 43 Head/Borgue, Kirkcudbrightshire/Shepherd
Margret Sherrie 58 Sister/Kirkcudbright, Kirkcudbrightshire/Housekeeper
Annie Bennett 29 Details above
George Hayden 43 Boarder/England/Gamekeeper

Tried ScotlandsPeople website - Births (Pay site)
Searched for: Surname: "Bennett"; Surname Option: Traditional Soundex; Forename: "annie"; Forename Option: Wildcard; Sex: "Any"; Year From: 1870; Year To: 1873; All Districts

Year-Surname-Forename-Sex-District City/County/-GROS
1872-BENNET-ANNIE-F-GLASS/ABERDEEN-199/00 0008
1873-BENNET-ANNIE-F-KIRKINTILLOCH/DUNBARTON-498/00 0203
1872-BENNETT-ANNIE CAMPBELL-F-GALSTON/AYR-593/00 0126
1873-BENT-FRANCES ANNIE-F-CLYDE GLASGOW CITY/LANARK-644/05 0871

Not the answer you are looking for but it may help.

Rod

[DKHande]

Many thanks, for the 1901 census info, Rod. Very often in Scotland in that era, a child born out of wedlock used the father's surname, so I am going on that assumption. (My own great-grandmother, born in this same part of Scotland in 1856 used her father's surname, whose name appears on her marriage registration.) There are several Bennetts in my extended family who lived around Rerrick, Tongland, etc., who might have been her father. But a little more information on her mother's life around the time Annie was born would be helpful. Perhaps Popsy21 can help in that regard?

D'Arcy


You did not provide much information to go on and therefore assume you refer to the lead thread #1 for Annie BURNETT, Kirkcudbrightshire, Scotland born 1869.

Tried ‘A’ Scotland who only provide abstracted census date – no images.

1901/ Kirkcudbrightshire (439)/Rerrick; ED: 2; Page: 14; Line: 15; Roll: CSSCT1901_439.

Annie Bennett
Age: 29
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1872
Relationship: Niece
Gender: Female
Where born: Tongland, Kirkcudbrightshire
Registration Number: 879
Registration district: Rerrick
Civil Parish: Rerrick
County: Kirkcudbrightshire
Address: Bankhead
Occupation: Outworker
ED: 2
Household schedule number: 63
LINE: 14
Roll: CSSCT1901_439
Household Members:
Name Age
William Sherrie 43 Head/Borgue, Kirkcudbrightshire/Shepherd
Margret Sherrie 58 Sister/Kirkcudbright, Kirkcudbrightshire/Housekeeper
Annie Bennett 29 Details above
George Hayden 43 Boarder/England/Gamekeeper

Tried ScotlandsPeople website - Births (Pay site)
Searched for: Surname: "Bennett"; Surname Option: Traditional Soundex; Forename: "annie"; Forename Option: Wildcard; Sex: "Any"; Year From: 1870; Year To: 1873; All Districts

Year-Surname-Forename-Sex-District City/County/-GROS
1872-BENNET-ANNIE-F-GLASS/ABERDEEN-199/00 0008
1873-BENNET-ANNIE-F-KIRKINTILLOCH/DUNBARTON-498/00 0203
1872-BENNETT-ANNIE CAMPBELL-F-GALSTON/AYR-593/00 0126
1873-BENT-FRANCES ANNIE-F-CLYDE GLASGOW CITY/LANARK-644/05 0871

Not the answer you are looking for but it may help.

Rod