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harfin
12-02-2009, 7:26 AM
Does anyone have access to a list of Church of Ireland clergy circa 1830's ?

I have a Robert Hamilton that I'm trying to trace who was a Clerk in Holy Orders.

I have reasonably comprehensive details regarding his son Francis who was born in mid 1835 in Navan, County Meath and subsequent family, but finding his father is a trial!

On An.....y I found a Rev. Archibald Robert Hamilton who was married in Co. Cork but that was nearly 20 years earlier than Francis' birth, so probably not him.

I've looked on the C.of E. clergy database but that appears to not include Ireland.

Thanks
Alan

sharonburn67
04-10-2009, 9:05 AM
Hi - I'm new here and I am wondering if we are looking for the same person?

I recently found some old documents relating to my ggg grandfather Dr Francis Dancey Hamilton born in 1835 in Co Meath. In a letter he mentions his father Rev Robert PD Hamilton and on Francis' marriage cert his father is a 'Clerk in Orders'. I have a death date for Robert and some letters and info on some Hamilton family land in County Monaghan but after that I'm stuck. The whole Irish connection is drawing a blank.

Did you ever find out about Robert Hamilton and do you think it's the same person?

Hollytree
04-10-2009, 1:29 PM
Hi

I have in the past looked for Church of Ireland clergy, and this library may help in locating records for you, http://ireland.anglican.org/

Good luck

Anne

harfin
05-10-2009, 8:42 AM
Hi - I'm new here and I am wondering if we are looking for the same person? I recently found some old documents relating to my ggg grandfather Dr Francis Dancey Hamilton born in 1835 in Co Meath. In a letter he mentions his father Rev Robert PD Hamilton and on Francis' marriage cert his father is a 'Clerk in Orders'. I have a death date for Robert and some letters and info on some Hamilton family land in County Monaghan but after that I'm stuck. The whole Irish connection is drawing a blank. Did you ever find out about Robert Hamilton and do you think it's the same person?

Hi Sharon

Yes I reasonably we are! My connection is actually via my brother Derek whose wife is a Hamilton.

I found some details regarding the Hamilton clergymen via the Church of Ireland archives in Dublin. From that and following some other contacts we now have a pretty good (and substantiated) line from her father (Robert Frances Dancey HAMILTON (1908-1989) back to 1772.

The Francis Dancey HAMILTON you mention is I am fairly confident, my sister-in-law's Great Grandfather, i.e.

Frances HART (nee HAMILTON) - my sister-in-law
Robert Francis Dancey HAMILTON (1908 - 1989)
Robert Pocrich Dancey HAMILTON (1873 - 1951)
Dr. Francis Dancey HAMILTION (app 1837 - 1903)
Rev. Robert Pocrich Dancey HAMILTON (app.1807 - 1870)
Rev. Francis Dancey HAMILTION (app 1772 - 1832)
Whilst digging for this detail, another interesting connection popped out of the brickwork regarding the last mentioned F.D. HAMILTON's wife (Martha BARRY) whose lineage we think is pretty sound back to (Baron?) Peter METGE (1665 - 1735)

As to location, most of the records regarding the early HAMILTON and METGE families revolve around the town / village of Athlumney in Co. Meath in Eire. The wife of Peter METGE though is reportedly from one of the Scottish STRATHMORE family although whether this is THE important LYON family (later to become BOWES-LYON) is still very conjectural.

No doubt my brother Derek and wife Frances would I am sure like to make contact with you direct, and to that end I am also sending you a PM giving my email address should be of the same mind.

Kind regards
Alan

sharonburn67
05-10-2009, 12:06 PM
Wow, thankyou very much Alan. That follows what I know and then adds some more - fantastic!

And thanks Anne - the site looks very promising.

I'm glad I asked!!

harfin
05-10-2009, 1:47 PM
Hello again Sharon

If you would like copies of the full data and documents Frances (my s-i-l) holds, I'm sure she would be happy to oblige, and Frances would be most interested to sight any data and document copies you may hold.

Kind regards
Alan

sharonburn67
06-10-2009, 5:42 AM
That would be great - I've sent an e-mail which you can forward on if necessary.
Let me know if you receive it

MindfulRoz
03-11-2009, 10:09 PM
Hi Sharon

Yes I reasonably we are! My connection is actually via my brother Derek whose wife is a Hamilton.

I found some details regarding the Hamilton clergymen via the Church of Ireland archives in Dublin. From that and following some other contacts we now have a pretty good (and substantiated) line from her father (Robert Frances Dancey HAMILTON (1908-1989) back to 1772.

The Francis Dancey HAMILTON you mention is I am fairly confident, my sister-in-law's Great Grandfather, i.e.

Frances HART (nee HAMILTON) - my sister-in-law
Robert Francis Dancey HAMILTON (1908 - 1989)
Robert Pocrich Dancey HAMILTON (1873 - 1951)
Dr. Francis Dancey HAMILTION (app 1837 - 1903)
Rev. Robert Pocrich Dancey HAMILTON (app.1807 - 1870)
Rev. Francis Dancey HAMILTION (app 1772 - 1832)
Whilst digging for this detail, another interesting connection popped out of the brickwork regarding the last mentioned F.D. HAMILTON's wife (Martha BARRY) whose lineage we think is pretty sound back to (Baron?) Peter METGE (1665 - 1735)

As to location, most of the records regarding the early HAMILTON and METGE families revolve around the town / village of Athlumney in Co. Meath in Eire. The wife of Peter METGE though is reportedly from one of the Scottish STRATHMORE family although whether this is THE important LYON family (later to become BOWES-LYON) is still very conjectural.

No doubt my brother Derek and wife Frances would I am sure like to make contact with you direct, and to that end I am also sending you a PM giving my email address should be of the same mind.

Kind regards
Alan
Hi I'm new here, but I have a little more on the Dancey Hamilton which I can post when I've found where I filed the details!
Basically I'm interested in the Dancey line in Meath/Monaghan in late 17 & early 18 centuries; a Mary Dancey married Robert Hamilton (who was a surveyor & in the customs/excise service) in about 1758. Mary was a cousin of Pockrich Dancey (P's father was Francis Dancey). I'm especially interested in any other children of Mary & Robert, as the naming may indicate who mary's father was.
My GG grandfather (born about 1810 in Co Cavan) was named Pockridge Dancey & so must somehow be related to the earlier Pockrich Dancey

I also have a bit on the Metge & Barry families as the earlier Danceys & Pockrich Dancey had married into these families

Any help you can give about the Hamiltons/Dancey Hamiltons would be really great
thanks

MindfulRoz
03-11-2009, 10:12 PM
Hi - I'm new here and I am wondering if we are looking for the same person?

I recently found some old documents relating to my ggg grandfather Dr Francis Dancey Hamilton born in 1835 in Co Meath. In a letter he mentions his father Rev Robert PD Hamilton and on Francis' marriage cert his father is a 'Clerk in Orders'. I have a death date for Robert and some letters and info on some Hamilton family land in County Monaghan but after that I'm stuck. The whole Irish connection is drawing a blank.

Did you ever find out about Robert Hamilton and do you think it's the same person?
Hi Sharon
I'm new here, but I have a little more on the Dancey Hamilton which I can post when I've found where I filed the details!
Basically I'm interested in the Dancey line in Meath/Monaghan in late 17 & early 18 centuries; a Mary Dancey married Robert Hamilton (who was a surveyor & in the customs/excise service) in about 1758. Mary was a cousin of Pockrich Dancey (P's father was Francis Dancey). I'm especially interested in any other children of Mary & Robert, as the naming may indicate who mary's father was.
My GG grandfather (born about 1810 in Co Cavan) was named Pockridge Dancey & so must somehow be related to the earlier Pockrich Dancey

I also have a bit on the Metge & Barry families as the earlier Danceys & Pockrich Dancey had married into these families

Any help you can give about the Hamiltons/Dancey Hamiltons would be really great, especially about land they had in Monaghan
thanks
Roz

harfin
04-11-2009, 7:29 AM
Hi I'm new here, but I have a little more on the Dancey Hamilton which I can post when I've found where I filed the details!
Basically I'm interested in the Dancey line in Meath/Monaghan in late 17 & early 18 centuries; a Mary Dancey married Robert Hamilton (who was a surveyor & in the customs/excise service) in about 1758. Mary was a cousin of Pockrich Dancey (P's father was Francis Dancey). I'm especially interested in any other children of Mary & Robert, as the naming may indicate who mary's father was. My GG grandfather (born about 1810 in Co Cavan) was named Pockridge Dancey & so must somehow be related to the earlier Pockrich Dancey I also have a bit on the Metge & Barry families as the earlier Danceys & Pockrich Dancey had married into these families Any help you can give about the Hamiltons/Dancey Hamiltons would be really great
thanks |wave|
Hello Roz!
Sharon and my sister-in-law Frances are already in touch and are exchanging details, and the hazy past is starting to clear!

Your GG Grandfather who you describe as "(born about 1810 in Co Cavan) was named Pockridge Dancey" sounds like Frances's GG Grandfather, i.e. Robert Pochrich Dancey HAMILTON, born about 1807 at Navan, Co. Meath, Ireland who died Mar 29, 1870 also at Navan, Co. Meath, Ireland. He was married to Ellen PALMER and they had three children as far as we have ascertained to date, namely Francis Dancey HAMILTON (b1837), Peter Metge HAMILTON, and Edward Palmer HAMILTON (b1838).

The aforesaid gentleman (namely R.P.D. HAMILTON) was the son of Francis Dancey HAMILTON (born about 1772 in Ireland) who died Jun 11, 1832 at Navan, Co. Meath, Ireland and was married to Mary BARRY (the daughter of the Rev. Richard BARRY and Mary METGE). They had as far as we know, eight children including Francis Edward Palmer HAMILTON (Sharon's ancestor).

We have quite a good detailed tree of the METGE family and some knowledge of Mary BARRY's family.

I'll send you a Private Message with my email details shortly.

Kind regards
Alan

Marie1
22-11-2009, 8:45 PM
I'm another first-timer so I hope this reply gets to the right place. I am a descendent of Baron Metge. According to my research he was a grandson of a Huegenot immigrant to Ireland, also called Peter, who settled in Athlumney. The Mary Metge who married Rev Richard Barry was, I understand, a sister of the Baron. I would be delighted if anyone could confirm this.
Marie

harfin
22-11-2009, 10:19 PM
I'm another first-timer so I hope this reply gets to the right place. I am a descendent of Baron Metge. According to my research he was a grandson of a Huegenot immigrant to Ireland, also called Peter, who settled in Athlumney. The Mary Metge who married Rev Richard Barry was, I understand, a sister of the Baron. I would be delighted if anyone could confirm this.
Marie

Hello

The METGE origins are pretty well documented and according to the sources my family have seen and consulted, the Reverend Francis Dancey HAMILTON (1772 to 1832) married Martha BARRY around 1805.

Martha BARRY was the daughter of the Reverend Richard BARRY (1743 to 1795) and Mary METGE.

Mary METGE (1742 to ?) was one of eleven children born to Peter METGE (1700 to 1774) and Ann (and / or Jane) LYON (1715 to 1805)

The aforesaid Peter METGE was one of five children born to Baron Peter METGE (1665 to 1735) and Joyce HATCH (1675 to 1735)

Most of the above data can be sighted in Burkes Landed Gentry of Ireland, various annual editions have more or less the same data.

Alan

Marie1
01-12-2009, 3:38 PM
Hello

The METGE origins are pretty well documented and according to the sources my family have seen and consulted, the Reverend Francis Dancey HAMILTON (1772 to 1832) married Martha BARRY around 1805.

Martha BARRY was the daughter of the Reverend Richard BARRY (1743 to 1795) and Mary METGE.

Mary METGE (1742 to ?) was one of eleven children born to Peter METGE (1700 to 1774) and Ann (and / or Jane) LYON (1715 to 1805)

The aforesaid Peter METGE was one of five children born to Baron Peter METGE (1665 to 1735) and Joyce HATCH (1675 to 1735)

Most of the above data can be sighted in Burkes Landed Gentry of Ireland, various annual editions have more or less the same data.

Alan

Many thanks and apologies for late reply. One point. According to my records Peter Metge (1665-1735)from France did not have a title. His grandson Peter (1744-1803/9), son of Peter (1700-1774), so Mary's nephew, was made a baron of the Exchequer in 1784 by Act of Parliament. The Baron is my main interest, especially his second wife widow Archdeacon
Marie

harfin
01-12-2009, 7:12 PM
Many thanks and apologies for late reply. One point. According to my records Peter Metge (1665-1735)from France did not have a title. His grandson Peter (1744-1803/9), son of Peter (1700-1774), so Mary's nephew, was made a baron of the Exchequer in 1784 by Act of Parliament. The Baron is my main interest, especially his second wife widow Archdeacon
Marie

Yes you are correct.
Have seen the lineage of the Metge family in Burkes Landed Gentry of Ireland?
There is a hand-written Metge family tree in existence that attempts to link the various branches (in several countries) together. I have seen it but my sister-in-law, Frances, has it.
Frances' main interest is from the first Peter whose daughter (Mary) married Rev. Richard Barry and their daughter Martha who married Francis Dancey Hamilton.

Kind regards
Alan

pgsessions
04-12-2009, 7:09 PM
Hello,
I'm new at this so bear with me. As I was googling Peter Metge last night, I came across a query about Peter and his wife Marie Archdeacon. If this was your query, I have some info that would be very helpful to you. Also I am interested in your Metge family tree. My maiden name is Metge and I have done quite a bit of research on this line.

Patricia Sessions

harfin
04-12-2009, 7:32 PM
Hello, I'm new at this so bear with me. As I was googling Peter Metge last night, I came across a query about Peter and his wife Marie Archdeacon. If this was your query, I have some info that would be very helpful to you. Also I am interested in your Metge family tree. My maiden name is Metge and I have done quite a bit of research on this line. Patricia Sessions

Hi Patricia

Gosh it never rains but it pours! Seems that Baron Metge has a number of genealogically inclined descendants :)

The existence of a second wife Marie Archdeacon for the Baron is totally new to me and also to my sister-in-law Frances who is a descended from the first Peter Metge (1665 - 1735).

If you care to email me via this address alan_'at'_harfin_.co._uk
(omit the under-scores and subsitute the @ symbol for 'at')
I'll pass it on to Frances (she has no internet access).

Kind regards
Alan

Marie1
05-12-2009, 10:01 AM
Hello,
I'm new at this so bear with me. As I was googling Peter Metge last night, I came across a query about Peter and his wife Marie Archdeacon. If this was your query, I have some info that would be very helpful to you. Also I am interested in your Metge family tree. My maiden name is Metge and I have done quite a bit of research on this line.

Patricia Sessions

Just to put the record straight, the Baron's second wife was ELEANOR Archdeacon. The Marie in my last message was me signing off. The Baron and Eleanor were married some time between 1778 and 1788 ie between the death of first wife Sophia Jane Crofton in Dec 1777 and birth of Eleanor's first child by the Baron, James Metge (Rev), born 1789/90, my GGG grandfather.

Marie

tron
18-05-2010, 9:52 AM
Hi Alan
My name is Robert Francis Dancey and I was born in Co. Cavan in Ireland. My brother has done some extensive work on our family tree in which I should have taken more interest!!! but I do recognise the name of Pocrich Dancey. The Hamilton bit I think is new though. I was named after my Grandfather Francis and I think his father was Francis too.I'll get in touch with Marcus and see just how far back he has managed to go
Chat soon
Robert






Hi Sharon

Yes I reasonably we are! My connection is actually via my brother Derek whose wife is a Hamilton.

I found some details regarding the Hamilton clergymen via the Church of Ireland archives in Dublin. From that and following some other contacts we now have a pretty good (and substantiated) line from her father (Robert Frances Dancey HAMILTON (1908-1989) back to 1772.

The Francis Dancey HAMILTON you mention is I am fairly confident, my sister-in-law's Great Grandfather, i.e.

Frances HART (nee HAMILTON) - my sister-in-law
Robert Francis Dancey HAMILTON (1908 - 1989)
Robert Pocrich Dancey HAMILTON (1873 - 1951)
Dr. Francis Dancey HAMILTION (app 1837 - 1903)
Rev. Robert Pocrich Dancey HAMILTON (app.1807 - 1870)
Rev. Francis Dancey HAMILTION (app 1772 - 1832)
Whilst digging for this detail, another interesting connection popped out of the brickwork regarding the last mentioned F.D. HAMILTON's wife (Martha BARRY) whose lineage we think is pretty sound back to (Baron?) Peter METGE (1665 - 1735)

As to location, most of the records regarding the early HAMILTON and METGE families revolve around the town / village of Athlumney in Co. Meath in Eire. The wife of Peter METGE though is reportedly from one of the Scottish STRATHMORE family although whether this is THE important LYON family (later to become BOWES-LYON) is still very conjectural.

No doubt my brother Derek and wife Frances would I am sure like to make contact with you direct, and to that end I am also sending you a PM giving my email address should be of the same mind.

Kind regards
Alan

tron
18-05-2010, 2:53 PM
Hi Alan
Having talked to my brother Marcus he has told me that he has gone back to a William Dancey who married an Elizebeth ? He died in 1876 and had children among whom are Francis and Isabella. This Francis married a Jane Mc Neill and had 9 children (Elizebeth, James, David, William, Richard, Isebella,Mary Jane, Francis (my grand father) and Ester Ann. This Francis (grandfather) Born 1831, married 1857 married an Margaret Adeline Orr and had my father David George Dancey Born 1928 and then there's me!!. Any tie in would be great as my brother has hit a bit of a brick wall in this line.:no:
Kind regards. Robert

harfin
19-05-2010, 4:52 AM
Hi Alan
Having talked to my brother Marcus he has told me that he has gone back to a William Dancey who married an Elizebeth ? He died in 1876 and had children among whom are Francis and Isabella. This Francis married a Jane Mc Neill and had 9 children (Elizebeth, James, David, William, Richard, Isebella,Mary Jane, Francis (my grand father) and Ester Ann. This Francis (grandfather) Born 1831, married 1857 married an Margaret Adeline Orr and had my father David George Dancey Born 1928 and then there's me!!. Any tie in would be great as my brother has hit a bit of a brick wall in this line.:no:
Kind regards. Robert

Hello Robert

Did you read the earlier posting on this thread from Roz? It included:



Basically I'm interested in the Dancey line in Meath/Monaghan in late 17 & early 18 centuries; a Mary Dancey married Robert Hamilton (who was a surveyor & in the customs/excise service) in about 1758. Mary was a cousin of Pockrich Dancey (P's father was Francis Dancey). I'm especially interested in any other children of Mary & Robert, as the naming may indicate who mary's father was.
My GG grandfather (born about 1810 in Co Cavan) was named Pockridge Dancey & so must somehow be related to the earlier Pockrich Dancey

Thus far I have not identified exactly who the Mary Dancey was who married Robert Hamilton in the late 1700's / early 1800's or too much more that specific Robert Hamilton.

I will by PM send my standard email address, as I have some notes that may assist you.

Kind regards
Alan

tron
19-05-2010, 11:22 PM
Hi Alan
Got an e mail from Roz on foot of her seeing my post to you so she's getting back to me. seems like my William and her Pockrige Dancey were brothers born around 1810 ish and she has the parents names so thats pretty cool!!
Thanks again for your help, very much appreciated. the .odf document didn't open for me tho, wondering if it wa spossible to send in word doc. ??
king regards
Robert

MindfulRoz
08-05-2012, 5:35 PM
Hi
I can't remember if I contacted you before -I don't visit here often.
I'm interested in what yo can share about the Hamilton Land in Co Monaghan - places/townlands/dates/names. Part of my wider Dancey/Dancy family were from Co Meath, Co Monaghan & Co Cavan & 1 (Mary Dancey) in 1758 married into the Hamilton Family (to Robert Hamilton, Exise Officer of Navan. So any info that might help tie up my little bit later prosperous tenanted farmers in Monaghan would be really useful
Could you leaveme a private message?
Thanks
Roz

MindfulRoz
25-07-2012, 9:08 PM
Hi
I've just found a site run by the Navan Historical Society that has some interesting snippets about 18/19 century Navan generally & some references to Rev Francis Dancey Hamilton (who was apparently the deputy to the Portreeve) & was instrumental in some of the scams of the time in terms of things like enclosures, & the overall way of running towns that was prevalent in Ireland & England. It adds some flesh to genealogy! go to
www.
navanhistory.ie/
Roz

Suzibloom
07-05-2014, 8:54 PM
Hello..I am a descendent off the Baron...I have an extensive file of the family tree ... I am stuck on finding that The Baron married when his first wife Sophia died, a name Elaenor Archdecon? I am baffled...not sure if you can help...I have contacted St Mary's in Navan where he is buried?
Regards
Suzanne
Hello

The METGE origins are pretty well documented and according to the sources my family have seen and consulted, the Reverend Francis Dancey HAMILTON (1772 to 1832) married Martha BARRY around 1805.

Martha BARRY was the daughter of the Reverend Richard BARRY (1743 to 1795) and Mary METGE.

Mary METGE (1742 to ?) was one of eleven children born to Peter METGE (1700 to 1774) and Ann (and / or Jane) LYON (1715 to 1805)

The aforesaid Peter METGE was one of five children born to Baron Peter METGE (1665 to 1735) and Joyce HATCH (1675 to 1735)

Most of the above data can be sighted in Burkes Landed Gentry of Ireland, various annual editions have more or less the same data.

Alan

sleuthjan
10-02-2015, 3:23 AM
I have an ancestor who was a clergyman in the Church of Ireland. I don't have link handy (where I was able to view some pages online at one time) but the book is entitled "The Clergy of the Church of Ireland, 1000-2000, Messengers, Watchmen and Stewards." If you do an internet search, you will see the book for sale. If I find link I saw before, I will post. This book helped me learn more about my great-grandfather and even mentioned his wife and her father's name. Good luck with your search!

Seán FDO
18-02-2017, 3:34 PM
Hello Alan! My name is Seán Dolan-Osborne. Dr Francis Dancy-Hamilton is my g-g-great grandfather on my father's side.
I'm intrigued if you have any further information about this family.
Jet

Seán FDO
18-02-2017, 3:42 PM
Hello! Dr Francis Dancy-Hamilton is my g-g-great grandfather on my father's side.
I note your a Cavan man! I'm from Scotland but my mother's side are Cavan! Duffys McCabes & Markeys!

harfin
18-02-2017, 6:37 PM
Hello Alan! My name is Seán Dolan-Osborne. Dr Francis Dancy-Hamilton is my g-g-great grandfather on my father's side.
I'm intrigued if you have any further information about this family.
Jet

Hi Sean,

It's actually my sister-in-law who is the descendant of the Hamilton's, but I do have some basic data about them.

The names Francis, Dancey and Pochridge appear throughout many generations of this 'Hamilton' family, and without dates, I am unsure which individual is your ggg-grandfather. There is one born in 1837 with just the specific names you refer to, who married a Harriet Brooks in 1857 and who passed away in 1903. Is that your ancestor?

If you can give me the dates of your chap, I will pass your enquiry onto my sister-in-law for her to respond direct; alas they're internet access is only through me.

Look forward to hearing from you.

Alan

Seán FDO
18-02-2017, 6:52 PM
Yes, that's the one. On some records his date of birth is between 1835-37 - I haven't actually seen his birth cert. A distant cousin of mine mention that the Hamiltons may be related to the Queen Mother's family - I'd never live that one down 😉

Seán FDO
18-02-2017, 7:57 PM
Hello! My g-g-great grandfather on my paternal side was Dr. Francis Dancy Hamilton, born 1835-37.
Coincidently, my mother's family have strong Cavan roots! I'm quite intrigued with the Dancy name. I note you mentioned a first name of Porich, which to me is the phonetic pronunciation of 'Patrick' spelt in Irish - Padraig - Given that the Hamiltons are clearly of Protestant planter stock I wonder if the Dancys have can be traced back to native stock?! I'm born & raised in Scotland by the way!

harfin
19-02-2017, 1:13 PM
Hello! My g-g-great grandfather on my paternal side was Dr. Francis Dancy Hamilton, born 1835-37.
Coincidently, my mother's family have strong Cavan roots! I'm quite intrigued with the Dancy name. I note you mentioned a first name of Porich, which to me is the phonetic pronunciation of 'Patrick' spelt in Irish - Padraig - Given that the Hamiltons are clearly of Protestant planter stock I wonder if the Dancys have can be traced back to native stock?! I'm born & raised in Scotland by the way!

Hello again Sean
As I said my data is limited as the material is only relevant to my my sister-in-law's family tree, however the information I have may shed some light on the points you raise:
The link to the Scottish royal family is via a Reverend James Lyon who was ordained 1671 after completing an MA at Aberdeen. The church records show his birth listed at Goldrum in Scotland circa 1642. Initially he was a curate to a Mr Anthony BARRY*. He took up a vacancy in in Co. Neath with Church of Ireland. It is believed there is a direct link with the Lyon family (that devolved into the Bowes-Lyon family) thus the royalty link.

Rev. Frances Dancey HAMILTON b. circa 1837 was the son of Robert Pochrich Dancey HAMILTON (b.1807) and Ellen PALMER. R.P.D. was the son of Frances Dancey HAMILTON (b.1772) and Martha BARRY (potential link to Rev J Lyon's original posting*).

Martha BARRY was the daughter of Richard BARRY and Mary METGE (a descendant of Baron METGE - an allegedly wealthy Huguenot family who resettled in Eire following the Edict of Nantes)

If you would like more information, I suggest you email me your postal address, which I will pass on to my brother Derek and his wife Frances (nee HAMILTON - granddaughter of Francis Dancey HAMILTON.

Kind regards
Alan A HART
alanhart256ATgmailDOTcom
(replace the bold capitals with the appropriate symbols)

helachau
19-02-2017, 3:58 PM
If you google "cochrane palmer rush hall" the hits returned should include "Sporting Magazine - Volume 6 -page 344" (google books).

Cochrane was the Rev. Robert's father in law (named in various newspapers reporting Ellen's marriage).

MindfulRoz
04-03-2017, 6:46 PM
Hi
Just to clarify any confusion about the use of Pockridge/Pockrich/Pockrage or any other variations, as a first or middle name, being a corruption/anglicisation of Padraig/Patrick. It isn't.

In Co Monaghan in the late 1600's ,there was a family with the surname Pockrich, several of whom had the role of Sheriff of Co Monaghan in the late 1600's & into the early 1700's.
Additionally there are several families in Wilshire with surname Pockrich/Pockridge, & even a Pockridge Road (or may be Lane, I can't remember!) It is likely that the Pockrich line originally came from Wiltshire to Ireland. As probably did th eDancey's as there are Dancey families in Gloucester in 1600's/1700's

It is also the case that the use of Pockridge/Pockrich etc as a first/middle name came about in Co Monaghan/Co Cavanetc, through a marriage of a female Pockrich to a Dancy/Dancey. There is a deed record of 1682, of a Francis Dancy & an Abraham Danc both yof Co Monaghan, being co-trustees of lands of a Micheal Pockrich (also of Co Monaghan)

By the way, the first Rev Francis Dancey Hamilton (born about 1772), was the son of Robert Hamilton, (exise surveyor) of Navan and Mary Dancey (married 1768). Mary Dancey was a cousin of Pockridge Dancey of Kilcarn House in Co Meath, close to Navan. Pockridge's father was Francis Dancey,whohad lands in Co Monaghan & who marrried Susanna Barry of Co Meath in 1716. From this Francis, the Dancy/Dancey line can be traced back to a marriage in mid 1600's between a Pockridge Dancey and a daughter of Walter Corry (originating from ?Dumfries)

best wishes

MindfulRoz
05-12-2018, 10:51 PM
Hi
Just to clarify any confusion about the use of Pockridge/Pockrich/Pockrage or any other variations, as a first or middle name, being a corruption/anglicisation of Padraig/Patrick. It isn't.

In Co Monaghan in the late 1600's ,there was a family with the surname Pockrich, several of whom had the role of Sheriff of Co Monaghan in the late 1600's & into the early 1700's.
Additionally there are several families in Wilshire with surname Pockrich/Pockridge, & even a Pockridge Road (or may be Lane, I can't remember!) It is likely that the Pockrich line originally came from Wiltshire to Ireland. As probably did th eDancey's as there are Dancey families in Gloucester in 1600's/1700's

It is also the case that the use of Pockridge/Pockrich etc as a first/middle name came about in Co Monaghan/Co Cavanetc, through a marriage of a female Pockrich to a Dancy/Dancey. There is a deed record of 1682, of a Francis Dancy & an Abraham Dancy both of Co Monaghan, being co-trustees of lands of a Micheal Pockrich (also of Co Monaghan)

By the way, the first Rev Francis Dancey Hamilton (born about 1772), was the son of Robert Hamilton, (exise surveyor) of Navan and Mary Dancey (married 1768). Mary Dancey was a cousin of Pockridge Dancey of Kilcarn House in Co Meath, close to Navan. Pockridge's father was Francis Dancey,whohad lands in Co Monaghan & who marrried Susanna Barry of Co Meath in 1716. From this Francis, the Dancy/Dancey line can be traced back to a marriage in mid 1600's between a Pockridge Dancey and a daughter of Walter Corry (originating from ?Dumfries)

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I'm still interested in trying to work out probable/likely connections between the Danceys in Navan/Meath & Cavan, & the ancestor line of Francis Dancey Hamilton b 1772 (father Robert Hamilton, mother, Mary Dancey/Dancy) I think that Mary Dancey was a daughter of a Richard Dancey who lived in Navan Co Meath in the mid 1700's (sources from the Navan Historical Society), and it is possible that this Richard Dancey married into the Barry family of Kilcarn Co Meath (a will of James Barry of Dublin died 1768 mentions Anne Dancey and Richard Dancey, and Charles Barry's will of 1730 mentions grandson Pockridge Dancey and his daughter Susanna Barry/Dancey). This Pockridge also had connections and leased lands in Co Monaghan.
I'm finding that genealogical DNA testing can be useful in identifying connections,which helps taking lines further back. Has anyone from the Dancey Hamilton line done a DNA test, or would be interested in doing so? I would be happy to share my results
Roz