Help needed

[dudenjill]

I have been searching the name Haffie and can not really find much. I have a family bible with names and no other info. Since I am Canadian I have no idea if the people are from Scotland or England. Some names I have are Mary (b 1843),Mary Ann (b 1868) Thomas (1870) Arlecdon. Other place names are Kirklonan, Hilton and Frizington. Any help would be appreciated.

[birdlip]

Hi there,

Arlecdon and Frizington are two small villages in Cumbria, about a mile apart on the edge of the Lake District, about 5 miles inland from Whitehaven on the coast.

I can't find Kirklonan, could it be Kirkland? Also near Frizington.

Hilton is also in Cumbria, just off the A66 from Penrith, near Appleby.

regards birdlip

[MarkJ]

Good one birdlip :)

So now that Cumbria is the area, it would be worthwhile checking the BMDs (e.g FreeBMD) for the births mentioned dudenjill.

Mark

[birdlip]

Thomas Haffie is with his uncle in the 1881 census;

RG11; 5183/103 P26
'Brow Foot' Arlecdon, Cumberland

James Stephenson head m 33 b GreySouthern, Cumberland Engine Driver(Rail)
Isabella Stephenson wife m 36 b Kirkby Stephen, Westmorland
Mary Stephenson dau 3 Frizington, Cumberland
Thomas Haffie nephew 11 Arlecdon, Cumberland scholar
Elizabeth Haffie niece 8 Hilton, Westmorland
Frances Haffie niece 6 Hilton, Westmorland

Looks like two younger sisters too. Perhaps their parents died?

p.s Thanks Mark!

[birdlip]

Haffie does seem to be an unusual name. There are only 31 Haffie's on freebmd ALTOGETHER, i.e including all types of certificates from 1837- 1920's.

Mind you when you look at Haffey, Huffey, Haughey etc, there are lots more! As with any surname of course, you have to have an open mind as far as spelling goes, and with any surname starting with H, try it without...Affey, Aphee etc. Actually I suspect your Haffie name originally had a Mc attached, but that may be several generations back.

There are also very few Haffie and variant names on IGI, and most of them are in Ireland and Scotland. The ones from Westmorland and Cumberland may be significant though;

Ann Haffie christened 28 Jun 1863 Morland, Westmorland, parents Henry Haffie and Jane. This could be another sister of Thomas's, Morland is SW of Appleby.

Then I found this, which looks like the marriage of Ann's parents;
Henry HOFFIE m Jane Miller 16 Jun 1860 St Lawrence Appleby in Westmorland

Finally this one caught my eye because its one of your villages, I suspect the father is probably your Thomas b 1870;
Sarah Frances Haffie christened 05 Jun 1893 St Paul Frizington, Cumberland, parents Thomas Haffie and Mary Ann

continued...

[birdlip]

On freebmd, this looks like the marriage of Sarah Frances' parents;

Jun 1892
HAFFIE Thomas Whitehaven 10b 1007
(and on the same page Mary Ann CORKHILL)

Unfortunately this looks like your Thomas too;

Dec 1900
HAFFIE Thomas age 30 Whitehaven 10b 418

regards birdlip

[Geoff Everitt]

1871 census
Hilton, Westmorland
Henry HAFFIE 26 AgLab, Temple Sowerby
Mary 26 Hilton
Thomas 1 Cumb Arlecdon
RG10/5269/85/18

Marriages Dec 1865
HAFFIE Henry Mack Whitehaven 10b 961
RUDD Mary Whitehaven 10b 961

The Isabella who was married to James STEPHENSON was nee RUDD.

Deaths Dec 1876
HAFFIE Mary 31 Whitehaven 10b 329

[birdlip]

Thanks for the pm dudenjill...just thought I should put this on your post in case people think you haven't responded.

[dudenjill]

Would possibly be named lonan on the isle of man??????????

[safetyman]

Hi Judenjill, you may be right as Corkhill or Corkill are Manx names. As far as I know there are no Corkills in Lonan but there are or were two farms just down the road which were farmed by Corkills.
Just a point for Birdlip in that Morland is north west of Appleby just outside the Lake District National Park boundary.
You can see the Cumbrian coast from both Lonan and Maughold and there used to be a strong smuggling connection between Man and Cumberland
Regards to all,
Frank

[safetyman]

Sorry I missed telling you that Maughold, just along from Lonan, is where theCorkills farmed.

[dudenjill]

I only have my family bible to go on and there is basically no info on anybody in it. But hey it is another avenue to look at and I will keep searching thank you very much.

Dudenjill