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Di&Trev
23-01-2005, 11:42 PM
Would very much appreciate any sightings in 1861/1871/1881 census for this family.
I seem to have lost them |banghead|

Thomas Orton. Born 27 Aug 1819. Wapping. London.
Christened 26 Sept 1819 at St John’s Wapping.
1839 Pigots directory of London listed as Thomas Orton & Co at 94 Lower East Smithfield as a Butcher
In 1841 census Listed at Downs Wharf Lower East Smithfield. Listed as a Butcher.
Married 5 Aug 1848 Parish Church Hackney to Eleanor Edwards born 1824 Bishopsgate.
In 1848, on marriage cert, occupation listed as Salesman.
In 1851 census living with Father & Mother at 69 Wapping High Street.
Still at parents house at date of daughter Kate's birth in August.
Listed as a Shetland Pony Importer on the 1851 P.O. Directory and as a Dealer in Horses on the census.
Ran his fathers Shetland pony Depot at 95 Lower East Smithfield.
Wife
Eleanor nee Edwards
Children
Kate dob 24 Aug 1851. Wapping
Elizabeth dob 8 Jan 1853
George Harry dob 23 July 1854. 5 Russells Buildings, St George In The East. Christened 20 Aug 1854.
Very grateful if anyone could pinpoint them for me

Mark
24-01-2005, 12:03 AM
In 1881, they appear to be in Yorkshire

Household:

*Name* Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation Disability
*Eleanor MORTON* *Head* *W* *Female* *69* *London, Middlesex, England* *Housekeeper (Dom)* **
*Kate MORTON* *Daur* *U* *Female* *28* *London, Middlesex, England* ** **
*Elizabeth MORTON* *Daur* *U* *Female* *27* *London, Middlesex, England* ** **
*George MORTON* *Son* *U* *Male* *25* *London, Middlesex, England* ** **
*Helen HAMILTON* *Servant* *U* *Female* *20* *London, Middlesex, England* *Domestic (Dom)* **
*Arthur WALKER* *Servant* *U* *Male* *17* *Hull, York, England* *Groom* **
Source Information:
* Dwelling** (Alexandra Rd)
* Census Place Cottingham, York, England
* Family History Library Film** 1342147
* Public Records Office Reference** RG11
* Piece / Folio** 4748 / 65
* Page Number** 38


Mark Hattam

Di&Trev
24-01-2005, 10:46 PM
Hi Mark,
Thank you so much for that, I've been tearing my hair out trying to find them. Mind you I wasn't looking in Yorkshire, or at Morton. I thought they'd still be in London and I'd hunted Oerton, Oughton, Horton & Orton all over the country.
Many many thanks |bowdown|

rotti
25-01-2005, 12:15 AM
In 1871 found living at 28 Grummant Rd, Camberwell:
Eleanor Ortan, W, age 45, b City, Middx, woolworker
Kate E, age 19, b Wapping
Elizabeth, age 18, b Wapping

No George I'm afraid.

Mark

Di&Trev
26-01-2005, 12:48 AM
Thank you Mark
This is wonderful, I've been hunting these people for months, so has my cousin (who is an Orton).
I'm very very grateful for your help in this |bowdown|

Ed McKie
26-01-2005, 2:48 AM
also just noticed that you include Ward in your name list.
Just in case you are not aware, The Ortons were related by marriage to the Jury family of Wapping as indeed were the Wards

Cheers..Ed

Di&Trev
26-01-2005, 3:03 AM
also just noticed that you include Ward in your name list.
Just in case you are not aware, The Ortons were related by marriage to the Jury family of Wapping as indeed were the Wards

Cheers..Ed

Now that I didn't know. Only researching Wards from Norfolk. However info on any relatives of Ortons & Jury's gratefully received as we also know of a researcher who is searching for female line descendents of Ortons to do a DNA test I believe.