Wheatman

[stephvincent]

Hi I'm banging my head on a brick wall!!!
My great great grandfather was a John Thomas Wheatman born around 1867 in Kendal Westmorland. However, I can find no record of his birth! Or either of his parents!!It's so frustrating, it is possible that his mother was unmarried or the name was mispelt!But i am not sure! I was wondering if anybody else was looking for this person, or whether anyone has any ideas I could try?
THanks very much!
Steph
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[Sue Mackay]

Is this him in 1881?

RG11; Piece: 4280; Folio: 59; Page: 42
Dalton in Furness

William ANDERSON Head 51 General labourer b Kendal
Mary wife 53 b kendal
William W stepson 29 iron miner b Kendal
John son 26 b kendal
Richard son 20 general labourer b Dalton
Alice dau 16 serv at home b Dalton
John T WHEATMAN grandson 14 stone breaker b Kendal

[stephvincent]

Hi Sue,
Yes possibly, I have come across this before. Perhps I should have mentioned before, that apparently somebody researched the family before, and found is mother's name was Sarah Wightman. Which could possibly mean a spelling mistake somewhere, however, I think this may be him, but I can't find his birth anywere!!
It's all so frustrating!!
Thank you for the help!
Steph
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[margarita]

Hello, Steph,

Did you see this on FamilySearch IGI ?

JOHN THOMAS WIGHTMAN
Male

Event(s):
Birth:
Christening:
22 MAY 1867 Saint George, Kendal, Westmorland, England
Death:
Burial:


Parents:
Mother: SARAH ANN WIGHTMAN


Source Information:
Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type:
C032211 1856 - 1873 0097383 Film 0541763 Film
Sheet: 00


Free BMD has these 2 births

Births Jun 1846

Wightman Sarah Ann Kendal 25 528

Births Sep 1856

Wightman Sarah Jane Kendal 10b 522

Regards,

maggie

[Sue Mackay]

What is the last thing you know for definite? Was he the John Thomas WHEATMAN who married Hannah THOMPSON March quarter 1895, Ulverston, Cumbria? Who subsequently appears on the 1901 census aged 34 (iron ore miner) with three young daughters in Dalton? If so, what was on the marriage certificate?

[pipsqueak]

I have found the Andersons again in the 1871 census, and the stepson (as seen in 1881) has the surname WHITEMAN and there is also a lodger called ABRAHAM WHITEMAN with the same name.

Class: RG10; Piece: 4242; Folio: 37; Page: 5

[Sue Mackay]

1871 census: RG10; Piece: 5287; Folio: 49; Page: 19

Kendal

Sarah Ann WHITEMAN as a boarder with two children, John T (4) and Alice (1), all born Kendal.

[pipsqueak]

FreeBMD also has John WIGHTMAN, Kendal, 10b/634; 1st Quarter 1868.

[pipsqueak]

I think you have it there - Wheatman, Wightman and Whiteman seem to be interchangeable. Time to order a birth certificate I think!

[stephvincent]

Hi Pipsqueak and Sue,
Thank you for your help!! Yes the Famiysearch one does look likely, I definitely think there must be a spelling mistake along the way!
Thank you again!!
Steph
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[stephvincent]

Certificate has now been ordered!!!
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[stephvincent]

Oh and I forgot to say, Sue, yes that is him, John Thomas Wheatman, married Hannah Jane Thompson, and three daughters, Elizabeth, Sarah and Margaret.
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[Sue Mackay]

Hi Pipsqueak and Sue,
Thank you for your help!! Yes the Famiysearch one does look likely, I definitely think there must be a spelling mistake along the way!
Thank you again!!
Steph
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Remember that the vast majority were illiterate at this date - so it would depend on how the clerk decided to spell it!

[rosemarylewis]

Hi Steph,
I wonder whether you're still tracing the Wightman family? I have a large collection of the Wightman family on my Ancestry site. My great grandmother was Elizabeth Wightman born 1854 in Kendal and emigrated to NZ with her husband and family in 1905/1906. Your John Thomas Wheatman was son of Sarah Wheatman daughter of Mary Whatman, daughter of John Wheatman/Wightman/Weetman, died 1843, married to Elizabeth Unknown, son of John Wightman born 1781, died 1826 and Alice Sedgwick.
I'll be happy to share more with you if you wish.
Good wishes
Rosemary