Any help with photos

[rayrussell2000u]

Could somebody help me with some information on these photos. dates, places anything. thanks.

http://img3011.photobox.co.uk/53529687af48918aa63363e00b8f3d1fe9a7453ea1d82d4a74 cb434bb6db97bbb0beca8c.jpg This one is my Italian ggg grandparents and their family. The Agazzi's they were Italian and came to Plymouth.

http://img3011.photobox.co.uk/18971336e4df3f8fbbbcb78a11ac710f1d43167e47147ae2e4 ad202a64396f8329d234d4.jpg

http://img3011.photobox.co.uk/388611474ffa9ff8f23f2167c40d43b77a05de6b38e36266fa 2cf7687b8f3ac485432b04.jpg

http://img4011.photobox.co.uk/74334772f1270e9bb0a52779cd3dfbeac9a5ea55b0ccc43457 756ea39e90b1fba6c329bf.jpg

http://img4011.photobox.co.uk/88865633bd5fa3e00c6ab32c51c6c2b7ba34674179bb9f3a96 2e71356117d1830de5a111.jpg

http://img4011.photobox.co.uk/265151083cf933223e7f8e391fa9552afba9b1b9f1b8d1e894 1143cd2fab209caf212fb9.jpg

[rayrussell2000u]

http://img4011.photobox.co.uk/61680421c3579ebec6c93fc7041d75af3668ce8cf5e0022a36 88adc31c0b4442e3c7ed3b.jpg

http://img4011.photobox.co.uk/31068941c3be72293f717dc9e9ae466f5de67a89d09ed6fdc3 da20aac91e31260581fff7.jpg

http://img4011.photobox.co.uk/3608204649f3b4ff468340f3158f60a02dd1fb6cdba9d0810e e72a9974c11557e69d965f.jpg

[Barnzzz]

These are really great photos ! While I can't be certain, the family group and dogs on the beach immediately reminded me of the Tunnels beach at Ilfracombe.

Sue

[pejay]

Hi there- what lovely photo's do they originate from late Victorian & Edwardian times.? I thought I could see a faint date of 1914 on the navy photo the one that said "to Tiddles with love I thought the people on the beach photo may be around 1930/40ish but I cant be sure. |wave|

[rayrussell2000u]

Anybody else got any info on these photos? I would love to know what you all think and what info you have.

Thank you.

Ray

[Jillychris]

Have you thought of contacting Chris Robinson from Plymouth's newspaper the Herald. He may put some of them on his pages on Saturday to find out if any Plymouth People knew them or the places they are photographed in.

Regards
Jill

[Peter_uk_can]

The car is a circa 1924 Austin Chummy. An early model identified by the wire wheels. It is carrying a `1924 Kent registration plate.

[Browneyes]

Hi,

I've done a quick bit of research re the number plate in the photo. I think that the letters 'KL' might indicate registration in Luton/Northampton.

Brief bit of history... The first regulated number plate was issued in 1903. At that time registration had to be made with County Councils and County Borough Councils. The vehicle registration fee was 20 shillings, the drivers licence fee was 5 shillings. In 1919 registrations were made through the Ministry of Transport. A new owner of a vehicle had to inform the local council after the Road Act of 1920.

At the beginning the first number plates started with 'A 1', this was followed by two letters and four numbers, then three letters and three numbers were introduced in the 1930s, by the 1950s this was reversed and in 1965 the system was changed again for obvious reasons.

So if I'm thinking right this means that the car dates from some time after 1903 to to some time before the mid 1930s. I'll keep looking anyway and let you know if I find anything else.

Browneyes.

Added... It appears that the registration in the photo was issued by Kent County Council (now Maidstone). See http://www.eircooled.com/numberplates.aspx

[Jan1954]

All you ever wanted to know about British Registration Numbers (http://www.fleetdata.co.uk/allocations.html) - and more! :D

[Browneyes]

Erm..yes...sorry Peter...I took so long typing that, that by the time I'd finished you'd posted your reply! |blush|

[Peter_uk_can]

That's ok Brown eyes. As an avid vintage car owner and enthusiast, I have more boring knowledge than time to repeat it.

[daleaway]

Top photo : late 1890s/early 1900s.
Lady in white wool two piece with tassel: early 1920s
Bathers on beach: 1930s

That's my guess.
Dale

[don.]

The first photograph showing the family group I would place between the years of 1893 and 1897. The hairstyle of the woman at the back and of the young girl to the left of the picture would be in keeping with this date period as it would appear that the fringe is curly and set high, the side hair has been brushed/pulled backwards which would leave the ears exposed and it would be set of in either a low flat bun at the back of the head or in a small coil also at the back of the head. This fashion for having a curly fringe etc (as described) was in fashion in the 1890's until 1896 when it was starting to be replaced by a style that was waved and brushed back high from the forehead. This style was later to become known as a Loose Pompadour.
The sleeving on at least two of the females would at first glance appear to be Gigot sleeving which is more commonly known as "leg of mutton" sleeves this style lasted between the dates already given. The two younger boys are wearing Eton Collars which accompany the Norfolk Jackets that they have on. This "suit" was finished off with Knickers, later to become known as "knee breeches", stockings, although referred too as stockings at the time they would be now called long socks, and sturdy leather boots.

The woman in the two piece knitted outfit (although I say knitted it may only have been the top that was knitted), picture three, would appear to date from the 1920's with her short cut, styled hair, the evidence of the wrist watch and also her complete outfit would indicate this to me and I would suggest a date line of between 1925 and 1929/30.

Picture number 7 which shows a soldier, woman and an officer from the navy was taken, I would suggest, during or very shortly after the first world war but not after 1924.

The family group photograph taken at the seaside was, going by the style of clothing, taken after the 2nd world war. The biggest clue to this is that the woman standing in the centre of the group is wearing a two piece swim suit. These did not come in to common wear until after the introduction of the Bikini in 1946. Although three years previously you could find women wearing two piece swimsuits on some of the beaches in America as due to certain aspects of "rationing" in the states there was a 10% reduction in the material used in women's swimwear. The original Bikini, when it was introduced, only used 30 inches of material.

don

[Sue Mackay]

In the first photo the huge splash of white would appear to me to be from the baby's Christening robe. If you can count the children and work out which baby this must be, and you know the date of the Christening.....

[cirstybewick]

hi
that beach photo looks like it's palm bay or cliftonville beach in kent as it still looks like that today???
great photo's by the way!!!

[Marie C..]

Think the lady with the knitted top(not sure of the skirt) might be "in an interesting condition". Fashion then was neater -waisted.

Lovely photos . Try them in the Western Morning news. They have been running a series of
old photos/people/ places etc.
M