Backtracking from Australia. Fahey. Campbell

[Danno]

Hi from Australia|wave|.

I have found myself in the tangled roots of my family history, and I suppose it's beginning to grow on me. :)
I suppose the first line i'm trying to unravel is on my fathers side.
Sarah Fahey b. Inglewood, Victoria, date not known. Married 24-9-1891 to
John Fahey. b. Australia. date unknown. Story told that he owned the first Pool Hall/Snooker Room in Casino N.S.W Aust.
His father, John Fahey born ?. in Ireland. died 27-10-1893.
John & Sarah's children were Monica, Vera, Ann, Theresa and Dudley, with possibly one other sibling, also a photo with two children, Maisy & Mona written on the back, Monica's cousins. information here is vague at best as to their origins, does this information ring any bells out there?

The other line I wish to trace back from is Robert Campbell married
31-10-1861 to Jane Ann Wanless in the district of Tynemouth, I had no information beyond Jane Ann until recently, that connection is yet to be confirmed, but it looks promising.
The Wanless line going as far as (John Wanlass circa 1736. & Ann Bails) & (William Manners, daughter Jane Manners)
Robert Campbells father, Joseph Campbell is the where the line ends for my research as far as this line goes.
Any help or hints would be most appreciated.

[Procat]

Hi Danno,

If you go here you can search the NSW BMD indexes for free and also buy any certificates you need:

http://www.bdm.nsw.gov.au/

This site records the marriage of a Sarah F Rowan to John Fahey in 1891.

There is a death of a Sarah F Fahey in 1900. Father Denis, Mother Margaret in Casino.

In the Victorian BMD indexes there is a birth which matches the death details:

Surname: ROWAN
Given Names: Sarah
Event: B
Spouse Surname/Father: Dennis
Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: Margaret PEIRCE
Age:
Sex:
Birth Place: LODD
Death Place:
Year: 1864
Reg Number: 15750
Denomination:
Parish:
Fiche:

(Lodd is probably an abreviation of Loddon. This area includes Inglewood.)

You can buy the Victorian Birth certificate from here:

http://online.justice.vic.gov.au/bdm/home

The certificate will give you the names of the parents, siblings, date and place of parents marriage.

There is this marriage but it may not be them given the bride has a different surname:

Surname: ROWAN
Given Names: Dennis
Event: M
Spouse Surname/Father: PEARSON
Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: Margaret
Age:
Sex: M
Birth Place:
Death Place:
Year: 1859
Reg Number: 4080
Denomination:
Parish:
Fiche:

[Danno]

Thanks for the info Doug, that has helped in so many ways with ongoing research.
I'm pretty raw at the methods of researching both online & Gov. Census records etc; that has given me more to work with to cross reference and extend the know line.
As I imagine the case is with many family records, having been destroyed either intentionally or accidentally, I have little to work with in some areas, this family line being one of them.
Thanks again, Dan.

[ChristineR]

Hi Danno

Just to confirm that Procat has found the right birth and marriage for you.
There is a sibling's birth registered in Inglewood in 1865. On other entries mum's name varies to Pierson /Pearson too.

The places shown in the birth index are actually the place and year of registration, not always exactly the year and place that the event happened.
So do not be concerned about Lodden as the place.

Siblings: all born Victoria
Christopher John, Inglewood, 1861 /reg no: 17604
John Dennis, Lodden, 1863 / 8386
Sarah, Lodden, 1864 / 15750
Dennis, Inglewood, 1865 /22653, died Lodden aged 6 days - reg:8979
Dennis, Daylesford, 1867 / 14370
William Joseph, Daylesford, 1870 /2022 - died Daylesford, aged 2 in 1872 / 976
Agnes, Daylesford, 1871 / 22745


We are lucky here in Australia as we have extensive information on our certificates - some States much better than others. We do not rely on a census every 10 years for family groupings, which is just as well as we do not have census available like overseas.

NSW certificates are a bit light on with info in earlier times, but this 1859 Victorian marriage will have both sets of parents names and the bridal couples ages and birthplaces.

In NSW you can use a transcription service to get the info half price or less - there are links to the official transcript agents on the NSW BDM website. There is not a transcription service in Victoria - the only access is certificate purchase.

ChristineR

[Danno]

Thanks ChristineR

I will purchase the Certificates that will most strongly support the known facts regarding my family. The information I have been given is sparking interest with others in my family, I had a feeling it would, the more help the better I say. "Where there's a will, there's usually a distant relative". :D

Thanks again.
Dan

[Danno]

[QUOTE=
The other line I wish to trace back from is Robert Campbell married
31-10-1861 to Jane Ann Wanless in the district of Tynemouth, I had no information beyond Jane Ann until recently, that connection is yet to be confirmed, but it looks promising.
QUOTE]

Well here's the update, the Robert & Jane information is confirmed.|grouphug|
I am now :confused:as to how I could trace Robert & Jane's other children, my G+ Uncles & Aunty's ?
#4 John is my G+ Grandfather, so I'm looking at his brothers & sisters with the burning question, what became of them, where & how do I begin the search for them?.
I'm not sure if the entire Family moved to Australia, #4 John had a son in Singleton. NSW. and any search in bdm has not helped narrow down the possibilities, so I had an |idea|, I'll come to the forums & ask the |jedi| wielders of wisdom.

1. Mary Ann Campbell, b. circa 1863, Cramlington, Northumberland,
2. Elizabeth Campbell, b. circa 1865, Cramlington, Northumberland,
3. Margaret Ellen Campbell, b. circa 1867, Cramlington, Northumberland,
4. John Campbell, b. circa 1869, Cramlington, Northumberland,
5. Thomas Campbell, b. circa Mar 1870, Cramlington, Northumberland,
6. Jane Ann Campbell, b. circa 1876, Bothal, Northumberland,
7. Robert Campbell, b. circa 1878, Bothal, Northumberland,
8. Mary A. Campbell, b. circa 1880, Bothal, Northumberland,

Cheers
Danno

[ChristineR]

Hopefully first of all, someone will produce the 1891 and 1901 census results for this family, then you will have an idea.

You will need to check for marriages and deaths for any girls missing, deaths for fellows missing.

ChristineR

[ChristineR]

there is this NSW death in 1939 - trouble with the indexes, no indication of age, and cannot check against births as they only go to 1907.

14521/1939 CAMPBELL THOMAS
father: ROBERT
mother: JANE ANN
District: LITHGOW

ChristineR

[Danno]

Hiya ChristineR

I am a bit overwhelmed with names & dates, they blend in with each other very quickly, so I've began searching the 'locations' Singleton - Lithgow, where the family seems to have been settled for a while, or within an estimate of years in which they 'may have' married, and not to mention the name change if Robert & Jane's daughters were married. I might have to let this one simmer for a time.
I actually had printed the list from bd&m a month ago or so, with Thomas Campbell at Lithgow, and I had a pencil question mark next to his name, that might be the certificate to purchase, it may list other names to give some more clues.

Thanks again ChristineR
Danno

[bobfahey_1]

Hi Danno,
Nealy 3 years after your post, but worth a go. I can definitely help out with your FAHEY research.
Bob Fahey - Perth WA

[Jacqui19]

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Hi Bob, Seems you are my knight in shining armour... Michael Desmond FAHEY (DOB: 1927) is my maternal Grandfather - his name is on the Birth Certificate at any rate. My Grandmother is Hazel ANDERSON (DOB: 1930). Both are now no longer with us. The couple married in Balgowlah in 1948 and my mother was born in 1950. I never had the privelege of meeting my Grandfather and suffered endlessly with the innuendo and gossip that surrounded my mothers parentage. Would love to touch base and share a yarn or two. Jacqui

[bobfahey_1]

Hi Jacqui, Unfortunately I dont have your Michael Desmond Fahey on my tree, but Its possible I might have some info stashed away, as between 5 & 10 years ago I done a lot of research on numerous Fahey families in Australia trying to locate information about my great grandparents. That brick wall was finally cleared after years of fruitless searching when I found out they arrived in Australia under the surname FOY (an Irish shortened version of Fahey). My Fahey's originated in Tuam Galway under the surname FOY. John Foy & Margaret Kane were married in Ireland in 1847 at the peak of the Irish Famine, but after the death of their first two children they fled Ireland for Cripplegate London in 1851 along with a small group of Tuam refugees. Most this group had lost one or both parents and several were young widowers in their early 20's, a typical reflection of the appalling conditions in Ireland at the time. My ggparents then had a son Patrick born at Cripplegate in 1852, then the group of Tuam refugees including my FOY's all immigrated to Australia in late 1853. A further 2 sons were born in Sydney, John Foy in 1855 (ancestor of 'Danno' who posted earlier on this thread) and Micheal Foy in 1857 (my grandfather). The FOY family moved to the upper Richmond River area of NSW Cedar cutting, and had settled at Casino NSW by 1870. Land purchases in and around Casino prove the Foy family changed their name to Fahey around 1877. By 1880 the Fahey family had a farm and built a hotel at Casino called the Great Britain Hotel, on the site where the present Oxford hotel stands. Have you established who were Michael Desmond Fahey's parents?

[bobfahey_1]

Hi Jacqui, I should have added that I have tracked all the descendants of the 3 Foy/Fahey brothers and I dont have a Michael Desmond Fahey.

[Jacqui19]

I think you're right Bob, these guys don't seem to fit. Michael Desmond FAHEY's parents were Patrick Francis FAHEY (Died 1951 and buried in Collie, Western Australia) and Mary Cecilia RICHARDS - Born 1912 and died in Perth, WA? Patrick F FAHEY was the son of Michael FAHEY (DOB: 1876) and Bridget BROWN (DOB: 1881). Both died in Western Australia.

There is a brother Kevin of Michael D FAHEY who is recorded as having lived in Sydney and MD FAHEY and my Grandmother, Hazel ANDERSON were married in Newtown, NSW.

Hopefully, the more I dribble on about this lot the more likely it will be that something will materialise.

:willy_nilly: Jacqui

[judyg]

Hi Jacqui

Have you found the details for the divorce of Michael and Hazel in the "West Australian" 19 November 1951 and 20th May 1952?

Cheers
Judyg

[Jacqui19]

Not yet, but am heading to TROVE right about now... I know she remarried a Cecil HALLO and had an illegitimate child before she had my half Uncle Brent... gee I hate Sundays!

[Jacqui19]

Just had a look... sorry, I have been there.