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momikep
14-12-2007, 10:08 PM
I have a William JAGGARD who married an Emily SMITH 1844 in Dorset. On the marr cert Williams father is Elijah JAGGARD a labourer at what looks like Dullingham W Newmarket Cambs.
The only combination I can find is an Elijah JAGGARD who married Hannah WEBB & they had a William who married a Susan HOBBS.
Can anybody help me to resolve the problem?
Geoffers
14-12-2007, 10:51 PM
I have a William JAGGARD who married an Emily SMITH 1844 in Dorset. On the marr cert Williams father is Elijah JAGGARD a labourer at what looks like Dullingham W Newmarket Cambs.
Odd (but very helpful) to get where the father was living/working on a marriage certificate! Out of curiosity, where does it appear on the certificate?
Did William live to appear in the 1851 census? If so, where does this record him as being born? Does this match up at all with the earlier marriage?
When you mention that you can only find one marriage - where is this from. If it is the IGI, do not forget that the IGI is not a complete record.
Can you locate any Elijah JAGGARDs on the 1841/1851 census - if so does this/these census returns give any leads which may help you to connect them?
A quick browse of the 1841 census shows two Elijah JAGGARDs - aged 20 and 25 - one in South Runcton, Norfolk, t'other in Dullingham. Both could possibly have been sons of two other men called Elijah who had died.
Davran
14-12-2007, 10:57 PM
This is the family in 1861 in Swindon, Wilts
Source Citation: Class: RG9; Piece: 1272; Folio: 19; Page: 32;
Arthur Jaggard (http://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=uki1861&indiv=try&h=15955301)9 Emily Jaggard (http://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=uki1861&indiv=try&h=15955299)44 Frederick G Jaggard (http://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=uki1861&indiv=try&h=15955304)8 Mo Mary Jaggard (http://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=uki1861&indiv=try&h=15955302)5 Sarah Jaggard (http://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=uki1861&indiv=try&h=15955300)15 Walter Jaggard (http://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=uki1861&indiv=try&h=15955303)3 William Jaggard (http://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=uki1861&indiv=try&h=15955298)36 Charles Murphy (http://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=uki1861&indiv=try&h=15955306)16 Frederick Murphy (http://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=uki1861&indiv=try&h=15955305)19
Davran
14-12-2007, 11:03 PM
1851 - mistranscribed as IOGGARD
Source Citation: Class: HO107; Piece: 1833; Folio: 582; Page: 54
Swindon, Wilts
Edward Ioggard (http://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=uki1851&indiv=try&h=16838015)7 Emily Ioggard (http://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=uki1851&indiv=try&h=16838014)34 Sarah Ioggard (http://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=uki1851&indiv=try&h=16838016)5 William Ioggard (http://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=uki1851&indiv=try&h=16838013)28
Davran
14-12-2007, 11:15 PM
There are several Elijah Jaggards on the IGI
http://www.familysearch.org/
There is also someone else who has an extensive JAGGARD family tree on Ancestry.
Obviously, treat anything you find there with caution and check it out yourself!
Peter Goodey
15-12-2007, 9:10 AM
1. I'd also be interested in your answer to Geoffers' question about the marriage certificate. You might have a collector's item there!
2. There is a 25 year old (ish) Elijah JAGGARD in Dullingham in the 1841 census. Possibly a brother?
You won't find everything you need online. What you need to do now is to get hold of the Dullingham parish registers. There appears to be a transcript available which may be published by Cambs FHS. I'll leave you to check. The Mormons have filmed the registers and you can order it in to view at your nearest Mormon place.
momikep
16-12-2007, 10:33 AM
Geoffers & Peter
Thank you for help. I am working on the suggestions etc.
In the meantime, if you go to my site at -
http://www.potts-jaggard-family.homecall.co.uk/ & click on the marr cert button, you will see a scanned picture of the cert in question.
Regarding Elijah Jaggard I have read it as a labourer at Dullingham W Newmarket Cambs. I have summised Dullingham as it was the only place in Cambs that started with a D and had that many letters ( even though I could not make out the tail of the g or the up of the h)
Maybe with your combined knowledge you could fathom it out.
Davran
Thanks. I have the Jaggards from the IGI and the same details on the 1861 Swindon census.
Regards
Mike
davidcarca
16-12-2007, 11:38 AM
Check out Cambs FHS website at http://www.cfhs.org.uk/Search.html which includes a baptism index 1801-37. There's a William baptised in 1823 at Burrough Green (less than a mile from Dullingham) son of Elijah and Hannah.
Looks more S Newmarket than W to me - compare with the W of William. And Dullingham is south of Newmarket, not west.
There's a death of Susan Jaggard in Newmarket registration district in June 1843. Might this have been Susan Hobbs and William who married Emily was actually a widower?
David
Peter Goodey
16-12-2007, 11:58 AM
It's probably a reasonable stab at Dullingham for a Dorset vicar :D.
I think it's S. Newmarket and Dullingham is indeed south of Newmarket.
momikep
16-12-2007, 2:38 PM
Peter
Again, thanks.
davidcarca
Thanks for your info.
I have checked Cambs FHS & still cannot resolve problem yet.
I note that William could have been a widower. I had considered that William was the one b 1823 to Elijah & Hannah Webb.
On the marr cert it appears his father ie Elijah was still alive. The Elijah who was married to Hannah Webb died in 1829.
I have other marr certs that state when a couple married if either father was dead at the time it states deceased in profession column.
But as i have learned you cannot take anything as 100% certain.
Regards
Mike
Geoffers
16-12-2007, 3:55 PM
Well blow me down - you jammy so-and-so getting the fathers' locations included - in over 30 years I have never come across this in a post-1837 marriage certificate.
The address looks something like 'Dellincombe' - which as has been commented on may well be a reasonable stab at Dullingham.
Don't be fooled by the marriage certificate seeming to note that the father was then alive - I have several which seem to show a father as being alive, and yet I have the fathers death certificates to show they weren't - Can you find an Elijah JAGGARD (or possibly just E.J if he was in an institution) alive in the 1841 or 1851 census?
momikep
17-12-2007, 1:28 PM
Geoffers & everybody that replied.
Once again thank you all very much for the trouble of replying.:)
I'll keep plodding on trying to resolve my present problem.
Regards
Mike
Peter Goodey
17-12-2007, 3:36 PM
If you follow the advice of consulting the parish registers for Dullingham (and Burrough Green as someone suggested), you won't plod - you'll forge ahead.:D
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