View Full Version : St Leonards, Shoreditch Parish lookup pls
Carrie Meerten
22-09-2007, 12:15 PM
|help| I am trying knock down some of the brick wall for my 4th great grandfather - Joseph FORREST.
I am asking for a lookup in both marriages and deaths in St Leonards, Shoreditch, London.
I believe that his first marriage was to a Sarah HALL on 14-Jul-1782 and they had 7 children before she died (after 1796). It then looks like he then met my 4th great grandmother, Elizabeth *SURNAME UNKNOWN*. Their first child was born 1801.
Marriage lookups are for Joseph FORREST and Sarah HALL 14th July 1782. Followed by his marriage to Elizabeth (UNKNOWN) sometime between 1796 and 1801 with a death lookup in the same time frame for a Sarah FORREST (nee Hall).
Cheers
Carrie
The 1782 marriage is easily done, but may I ask what you are hoping to find from it? You won't get parents' names, unless one of the spouses admitted to being under age and needed parental consent to marry. You should get marital status (bach/spin/wid), whether both spouses were living in the parish at the time of the marriage, whether the marriage was by banns or licence, and the names of a couple of witnesses -- but at St Leonard Shoreditch these are as likely to be church employees as relatives.
The second marriage is unlikely to have been at St Leonard Shoreditch, since all marriages there up to 1808 are supposedly extracted to the IGI, and unfortunately it isn't coming up.
You also asked for a death lookup. There are no deaths in parish registers, only burials. Shoreditch is a huge parish. It could take a couple of hours to read through the burial registers for the period you require, and these are not in the best condition. In any case, until you find evidence of a second marriage, there is no guarantee that the first wife died in that time-frame (maybe they just regrouped?), or that she was buried at Shoreditch.
I will check the 1782 marriage for you next week if you want. I think the other searches are a tad unrealistic, sorry :(
Elly
Carrie Meerten
23-09-2007, 3:51 AM
Hi Ellie
Not sure exactly what I am hoping to find, only that it will jump out at me when and if I see it. I am clutching at straws at present trying to know down that ever appearing brick wall |banghead|.
I meant burial not death. By finding this it just helps to move the family of Joseph and Sarah closer to my Joseph and Elizabeth. Elizabeth being the 2nd wife. As it is all well before the 1841 census, I have not other way of trying to confirm it.
I also am not able to access my local FHS or LDS centre so I am going to have to rely on the help of others in locating this information for me.
You mention that supposedly all marriage should be on IGI for St Leonards. If that is the case and they (Joseph and Elizabeth) are not showing up, they might have used the next closest parish. Do you know what the next closest parish(s) might have been that they could have used. Sorry, I don't know this area. I know Dorset where I have been doing extensive research. This area is new to me.
You mention that supposedly all marriage should be on IGI for St Leonards. If that is the case and they (Joseph and Elizabeth) are not showing up, they might have used the next closest parish. Do you know what the next closest parish(s) might have been that they could have used.
Just to be clear (and so as not to mislead anyone else), I said marriages at St Leonard Shoreditch are extracted up to 1808. There are then further extractions covering 1834-1851, and there may well be more. But the point is that the period you are enquiring about (1796-1801) is covered.
The second marriage could have been anywhere, not necessarily in a nearby parish. That said, parishes adjacent to Shoreditch with churches open for marriages at this date would include St Matthew Bethnal Green, St Luke Old Street, Christ Church Spitalfields, countless tiny parishes in the City of London, and slightly further afield (and in different directions) St Mary Islington and St John Hackney. You can use Hugh Wallis's site to check which of these parishes have marriages extracted to the IGI for the years you need. The ones that remain would probably be the ones to tackle first.
http://
freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~hughwallis/
If you are new to Middlesex/London research, you may find the Genuki Middlesex pages useful
http://
homepages.gold.ac.uk/genuki/MDX/ParishIndex.html
and you could try orientating yourself with some London maps
Cassini Maps (http://www.parishchest.com/shop/index.php?cmd=listdepts&cat=D1788)
Unfortunately, the second marriage does not seem to be on the IGI or in other standard indexes such as Pallot's or Boyd's. You might strike lucky with a clue or reference from another source. But if you don't have LDS access, I'm afraid searching possible PRs for this second marriage would be a lengthy task requiring a researcher rather than a voluntary lookup :(
Elly
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