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chloed
13-12-2006, 10:06 AM
caroline in 51 census says she is born c.1830 barley.
in the 41 census she is living with robert and sarah bright [both c.1771].
no sign of carolines parents, cannot find baptism of caroline, however there is a death in 1830 of a susannah moule in barley ,aged 21.
there is also a baptism of a susan bright 1809 [parents robert and sarah]
problem is no marriage i can find of moule/bright.
so is robert and sarah ,carolines maternal grandparents, and susannah died in childbirth ?
anyone got any ideas ?

Wirral
13-12-2006, 10:18 AM
Caroline's marriage certificate will give the name & occupation of her father. Any other relatives living with her in later censuses?

janbooth
13-12-2006, 10:40 AM
You could also try your local LDS Family History Centre. The LDS have the Bishops Transcripts of Barley 1802-1849 on microfilm no 1537768 Items 2-3. Hopefully you could then track down Caroline's parents.

Janet

Peter Goodey
13-12-2006, 11:22 AM
caroline moule c.1830 ?
She's in the IGI!!!!!!!!!

CAROLINE MOLE
Christening: 30 AUG 1829 Barley, Hertford, England

Parents:
Father: FREDERIC MOLE
Mother: SUSANNA
Batch C072122

chloed
13-12-2006, 12:56 PM
nice one peter
looked at igi but typed in moule on search as that was the surname she married with,
thank you

Wirral
13-12-2006, 1:39 PM
Looks like Frederick remarried. 1841 census HO107/443/4 folio 4 page 2, High St, Barkway, Herts. (Y= born in the county)

Frederick Moule 32 Shoe m., Y
Charlotte " 32 Y
Susan " 8 Y
Frederick " 6 Y
Alfred " 3 Y
Walter " 1, Y

Also in house is William Climmon [?] 50 Ag lab, Y

Paul Marshall
13-12-2006, 1:46 PM
In 1831 ...

FREDERICK MOULE
Spouse: CHARLOTTE MACHEN
Marriage: 30 JUL 1831 Barley, Hertford

Batch M072122

Paul Marshall
13-12-2006, 1:52 PM
His marriage to Susan Bright ...

FREDERICK MOUL
Spouse: SUSAN BRIGHT
Marriage: 25 DEC 1826 Saint Leonards, Shoreditch, London, England

Batch M040803

Wirral
13-12-2006, 2:27 PM
1851 census HO107/1707 folio 313 page 26, High St, Barkway, Herts.
Fred Moule head Mar 42, Mastr shoemaker, Herts Buckland
Charlotte " wife Mar 41 Herts Barley
Fred " son U 16 Shoemaker's apprentice, Herts Barkway
Alfred son U 15 Herts Barkway
Walter " son 11 scholar Herts Barkway
Mary A. " dau 9 Herts Barkway
Arthur " son 6 Herts Barkway
Charlotte " dau 2 Herts Barkway
Elizth. Sammons dau Mar 23 Herts Barley [this will be Caroline's sister]
Mary A. " gd dau 1 Herts Barley
- Moule dau 1 wk, Herts Barkway

Wirral
13-12-2006, 3:41 PM
FREDERICK MOUL
Spouse: SUSAN BRIGHT
Marriage: 25 DEC 1826 Saint Leonards, Shoreditch, London, EnglandA runaway marriage, perhaps? !:eek: They were both about 18 at the time.

Paul Marshall
13-12-2006, 3:52 PM
... and married on Christmas Day !

chloed
13-12-2006, 5:44 PM
THANKS EVERYBODY
interesting shoreditch marriage
seems robert's new wife would'nt take on caroline possibly,

Clive Blackaby
14-12-2006, 2:55 AM
... and married on Christmas Day !Somebody once told me that marriages on Christmas Day were free of charge, indicating that the couple probably could not otherwise afford the luxury (?? fill in your own comments here ??) of gettting married.

Anyone have any thoughts on this??

Clive Blackaby
14-12-2006, 3:03 AM
looked at igi but typed in moule on search as that was the surname she married withThat's odd. Usually IGI would be expected to pick up "Mole" if you type "Moule" and don't tick "exact spelling", but in this case it doesn't. Shoots holes through my understanding of the way IGI search engine works !!