Hoyle Family - St Columb Major

[jamie1501]

I am looking for any information on the Hoyle family of St Columb Major - especially Annie Hoyle (born second quarter of 1879).

She was the daughter of James and Ellen Hoyle, sister to Emma Alma, Mary Walter, Herbert, Harry, Ivy, Ellen and William

If anyone has any information on Annie I would be grateful, I know she was in Manchester in 1920 where she gave birth to a son, but that's all I know

Emma Alma died in Eastbourne in 1969

[Scottie]

Hi Jamie,
I am emailing you with details of this family. Here is a taster. :) James Hoyle married Ellen Rooks on 23 Oct 1870 in St Columb Major and they had 8 children. Annie's grandparents were Jabez Hoyle & Margaret(born Merthyr Tydfill) and Henry Rooks and Jane Chappell married 12 Feb 1850 in St Columb Major. Henry was born in Tiverton, Devon.

[jamie1501]

Thanks for the taster .... is there a main course??

The reason for my interest in the family is that Annie Hoyle was my grandmother, I have found lots of information about her sister Emma (who was staying with the Rooks at census time 1901) but can find nothing about Annie apart from the fact that she's my father's mother

My father was adopted into the family that Emma Alma had married into, and he then changed his surname - so by lineage I'm actually a Hoyle hence my need to know more. Given James and Ellen had 8 children it's logical I may have many distant relatives out there!

If you can tell me any more I'd be grateful

[Scottie]

Thanks for the taster .... is there a main course??
Look in your in box for the email I sent last night. Let me know if it is not there and I will resend |biggrin|

[jamie1501]

Nothing there as yet .....

[Scottie]

Sorry I was out all afternoon at the hospital. I have sent it off again now at 2209. Please check your bulk box as it has an attachment and you are with hotmail. They do not always like attachments

[swaggerz]

Hi Jamie,
I am emailing you with details of this family. Here is a taster. :) James Hoyle married Ellen Rooks on 23 Oct 1870 in St Columb Major and they had 8 children. Annie's grandparents were Jabez Hoyle & Margaret(born Merthyr Tydfill) and Henry Rooks and Jane Chappell married 12 Feb 1850 in St Columb Major. Henry was born in Tiverton, Devon.

Would you have any dates or birthplace for Jabez Hoyle? I've lost a Jabez after the 1871 Lancashire census. Thank you for any help!
Steve

[suedent]

Would you have any dates or birthplace for Jabez Hoyle? I've lost a Jabez after the 1871 Lancashire census. Thank you for any help!
Steve

Here is the family in 1861:

Jabez Hoyle Head M 48 Herbalist Rochdale, Lancashire
Margarett Hoyle Wife M 52 Glamorgan, Merthyr Tydvil
Henry Hoyle Son 19 Blocking Manufacturer Redruth, Cornwall
James Hoyle Son 15 Boot & Shoe Closer Redruth, Cornwall
Fore Street, St Columb Major, Cornwall
RG9/1542 ED 1 Folio 7 Page 7

The family in 1871:
Jabez Hayle Head M 55 Medical Herbalist Rochdale, Lancashire
Margaret Hayle Wife M 63 Wales Merthy Tydvel
46 Fair Street, St Columb, Cornwall
RG10/2255 ED 1k Folio 8 Page 8 Sched 43

At a stretch this might be Henry in 1871:

Mariah Anderton Head W 35 Housekeeper Lancashire Wigan
Elizabeth Anderton Daur Unm 16 Laborer (Colliery) Lancashire Wigan
James Anderton Son 12 Miner (Colliery) Lancashire Wigan
Mary I Anderton 7 Scholar Lancashire Wigan
Henry Hile Boarder Unm 23 Miner (Colliery) Cornwall Redruth
Ann Martland Boarder U 21 Laborer (Colliery) Lancashire Billing
Viaducts, Ince in Makerfield, Lancashire
RG10/3892 ED 18 Folio 79 Page 33 Sched 181

The family in 1881:

Jabez Hoyle Head M 68 (Sms) Medical Homoeopathist Lancashire Rochdale
Margaret Hoyle Wife M 72 Glamorgan Merthyr Tydvil
Henry Hoyle Son Unm 39 Groom Cornwall Redruth
28 Fair St, St Columb Major, Cornwall
RG11/2296 ED 2 Folio 23 Page 6 Sched 31

This death would fit:
Deaths Dec 1889 Hoyle Jabez 76 Bodmin 5c 64

[suedent]

Would you have any dates or birthplace for Jabez Hoyle? I've lost a Jabez after the 1871 Lancashire census. Thank you for any help!
Steve

Is this your man?
Deaths Mar 1874 HOYLE Jabez 38 Haslingden 8e 102

Have you tried using wildcards to search? eg. Jab* Hoyle. This will eliminate any transcription errors, "z" is commonly misread.

Alternatively use just the firstname, approximate age and birthdate. I have come across "H" being misread as "K" and vice-versa.

[swaggerz]

Is this your man?
Deaths Mar 1874 HOYLE Jabez 38 Haslingden 8e 102

Have you tried using wildcards to search? eg. Jab* Hoyle. This will eliminate any transcription errors, "z" is commonly misread.
Alternatively use just the firstname, approximate age and birthdate. I have come across "H" being misread as "K" and vice-versa.[/QUOTE]

Thank You, I think this might very well be him. In the 1871 Jabez 35 -is listed as living with his Sister and her second Husband (John Heys) along with two children from her previous marriage (Richard & John Read). Her husband William Read vanishes after 1851 but before 1861.

Thank You again.
Steve

[jamie1501]

Hi

Are any of the posters to this thread related to Jabez Hoyle by any chance?

He was my great great grandfather

[Scottie]

Is this your man?
Thank You, I think this might very well be him. In the 1871 Jabez 35 -is listed as living with his Sister and her second Husband (John Heys) along with two children from her previous marriage (Richard & John Read). Her husband William Read vanishes after 1851 but before 1861.

Thank You again.
Steve

Sorry to put a spanner in the works but the Jabez who was in St Columb Major in the other censuses was also there in 1871 aged 58 and a medical herbalist. I think I sent you the tree Steve

[Scottie]

Hi
Are any of the posters to this thread related to Jabez Hoyle by any chance?
He was my great great grandfather

Hi Jamie,
No not related but if it is the Medical Herbalist Jabez you mean who married Margaret from Merthyr Tydffil, I have all the census details on the family

[suedent]

No I'm not related.

The census details and death reference for your Jabez are in post #8

[jamie1501]

If anyone's interested I have info on one line of the descendants of Jabez Hoyle ... right up to yours truly

[Scottie]

If anyone's interested I have info on one line of the descendants of Jabez Hoyle ... right up to yours truly

Yes I am if it is the medical herbalist Jabez Jamie. Can you email me direct?