1841 census lookup please

[r-careys]

Requesting a look up for Thomas Peel and Wife Mary most likely in the Grantham or Great Gonerby area. One son that I have found is George Peel born 1826 Grantham. Perhaps George is still at home

[ChristineR]

The only George of the right age in Lincolnshire...
Ref HO107-0633
Enumeration District No 5
Place FALDINGWORTH
Folio No 1/9 Page No 24
On a farm - George PEEL, 15, Ag Lab, y
The Farmer and family
Robert & Mary LAMMINAM?, 4 children,
William and Ann MARTIN, 14 & 15 - ag lab and a female servant,
plus Elizabeth CARMELL?, 45, nurse.

[ChristineR]

The only one in Grantham...

HO107-0625
LINCOLNSHIRE
Registrar's District GRANTHAM
Enumeration District No 6
Township MANTHORPE WITH LITTLE GONERBY
Folio No 4/10 Page No 13
Place VERE COURT

Thomas PEAL 41 ag lab, y
Ann, 34, y
Elizabeth 4, Mary 3, Robert 10 mths, y
Elizabeth FREW? FEW? FRED? 78 not born in county

What age is your Thomas? there are some others to choose from elsewhere.

ChristineR

[janbooth]

There is this Th PEEL in Manthorpe cum Little Gonerby - any use??

HO107/625/4, folios 40/1, pages 20/1
Vere? Court

Th PEEL 40 Labourer Born in county yes
Ann do 30 yes
Eliz do 5 yes
Mary do 3 yes
Robt do 1 yes

Janet

[ChristineR]

I went back and doublechecked the entry :D I thought I couldn't possibly be that far out. I now noticed that the census page that was linked to the index entry was crossed through and in the margin was written something like "error in affidavit - too faint" or some such nonsense!

So I went back to the index and just put in Peel and Grantham, and up popped this other entry on barely legible pages. These entries are copied from the first ones - as the ages are now rounded. Robert is quite clearly written as 10 months in the first one, but 1 in the second, and Mary aged from 4 to 5!
One consolation - the old lady who appears to be sharing the house with them is Elizabeth FORD - on the second one she is in her own house. She has been noted as a widow on the second entry but it is crossed out.

Perhaps the error in affidavit means the householders filled them out wrong and they had to be redone.

ChristineR

[Geoff Everitt]

Well spotted!

My version is "Error in appointed district"

Folios 10 and 40 are in different Enumeration Districts.

If the word "Widow" appears, it is usually crossed out as it isn't an occupation.

[ChristineR]

Well spotted!

My version is "Error in appointed district"

Folios 10 and 40 are in different Enumeration Districts.

If the word "Widow" appears, it is usually crossed out as it isn't an occupation.

I must admit that I didn't try too hard to work it out! :o but that explains everything - the enumerater has copied the householders returns into the wrong enumeration district - crossed them out, and redone them into the right section, rounding the ages as they were supposed to be presented for 1841, and introduced the odd error.
Thanks for that.
ChristineR

[r-careys]

The only George of the right age in Lincolnshire...
Ref HO107-0633
Enumeration District No 5
Place FALDINGWORTH
Folio No 1/9 Page No 24
On a farm - George PEEL, 15, Ag Lab, y
The Farmer and family
Robert & Mary LAMMINAM?, 4 children,
William and Ann MARTIN, 14 & 15 - ag lab and a female servant,
plus Elizabeth CARMELL?, 45, nurse.
Hello Christine,
That all appears to fit, I was however expecting to find his occupation as either a brick layer or stone mason. Perhaps he went on later to become one?
If this was him then his mother and Father mary and Thomas Peel should be not too far off.

Thank you for your efforts

[r-careys]

The only one in Grantham...

HO107-0625
LINCOLNSHIRE
Registrar's District GRANTHAM
Enumeration District No 6
Township MANTHORPE WITH LITTLE GONERBY
Folio No 4/10 Page No 13
Place VERE COURT

Thomas PEAL 41 ag lab, y
Ann, 34, y
Elizabeth 4, Mary 3, Robert 10 mths, y
Elizabeth FREW? FEW? FRED? 78 not born in county

What age is your Thomas? there are some others to choose from elsewhere.

ChristineR
Hi again Christine,
I do not have any information on George's parents other than they were Thomas and Mary.
I did however believe they were also from the Grantham area. I put their birth at between 1780 and 1806.
I will note that record for future use.

[r-careys]

There is this Th PEEL in Manthorpe cum Little Gonerby - any use??

HO107/625/4, folios 40/1, pages 20/1
Vere? Court

Th PEEL 40 Labourer Born in county yes
Ann do 30 yes
Eliz do 5 yes
Mary do 3 yes
Robt do 1 yes

Janet
Hello Jan,
As previously mentioned I expected to find Thomas and wife Mary.
What does the "do" stand for I gues it can not be daughter with Ann at 30 and son Robert at 1.
This entry is very simmilar to Christines entry is it just a different interpretation or a different source?

[r-careys]

I went back and doublechecked the entry :D I thought I couldn't possibly be that far out. I now noticed that the census page that was linked to the index entry was crossed through and in the margin was written something like "error in affidavit - too faint" or some such nonsense!

So I went back to the index and just put in Peel and Grantham, and up popped this other entry on barely legible pages. These entries are copied from the first ones - as the ages are now rounded. Robert is quite clearly written as 10 months in the first one, but 1 in the second, and Mary aged from 4 to 5!
One consolation - the old lady who appears to be sharing the house with them is Elizabeth FORD - on the second one she is in her own house. She has been noted as a widow on the second entry but it is crossed out.

Perhaps the error in affidavit means the householders filled them out wrong and they had to be redone.

ChristineR
Thanks for the explanation.
I will read all reply's before answering next time

[r-careys]

Hi geoff,
Sorry to digress but do you know if Everett and Everitt started out as the same name.
I have Everett's in Melbourn, Cambridgeshire mid 1700's

[Geoff Everitt]

I think the marriage to Ann (HAMMONDS) was 1 Dec 1835 at Grantham.

If the age of this Thomas PEAL is correct (51 in 1851), he was probably not the father of George, as Thomas and Mary had 9 children bap at Barrowby 1813-27.

A Thomas PEEL was buried at Barrowby 18 April 1832 age 47

This suggests he was probably the Thomas PEAL bap at Barrowby 19 Oct 1783, son of John and Mary.

[r-careys]

I think the marriage to Ann (HAMMONDS) was 1 Dec 1835 at Grantham.

If the age of this Thomas PEAL is correct (51 in 1851), he was probably not the father of George, as Thomas and Mary had 9 children bap at Barrowby 1813-27.

A Thomas PEEL was buried at Barrowby 18 April 1832 age 47

This suggests he was probably the Thomas PEAL bap at Barrowby 19 Oct 1783, son of John and Mary.
Hello Geoff,
This is going too fast for me :)
You say Thomas and Mary had 9children at Barrowby I will have to get out google earth and see where Barrowby is I presume it is near Grantham?
Could you tell me the names and dates of the 9 children please....

[Geoff Everitt]

Barrowby is 2 miles west of Grantham.

The baps are at www.familysearch.org

Thomas 3 May 1818
Mary 25 Sep 1814
John 5 Jun 1813
Peter 18 May 1829
Paul Allgood (PEEL) 13 June 1824
George 10 Feb 1822
George 4 Mar 1827
Wm 14 May 1820
Anne 20 Feb 1816

[Mary Young]

What does the "do" stand for?
"Do" is short for ditto (or more properly, dictum) meaning to copy or reiterate.
In this entry, it means "copy from the entry above", so everyone has the surname, PEEL.
Th PEEL 40 Labourer Born in county yes
Ann do 30 yes
Eliz do 5 yes
Mary do 3 yes
Robt do 1 yes