Nottingham County Gaol

[mattjarvis8]

The 1841 census shows my ancestor Gervas Shelton in the Nottingham County Gaol. Does anybody know of a way of finding out what he had done to get in there?

Thanks,

Matt

[kmdward]

Stuart Tamblin does indexes of Criminal Registers and sells them for a very reasonable price. He has done some for Notts so might be worth a try. Web Family History Indexes (http://www.parishchest.com/en-gb/dept_3404.html).

[badger64]

The 1841 census shows my ancestor Gervas Shelton in the Nottingham County Gaol. Does anybody know of a way of finding out what he had done to get in there?

Thanks,

Matt
Gervas was m y GGG Grandfather and at he Nottm Quarter Sessions 19th October 1840 he was what we would now I think call bound over in the sum of £20 tokeep the peace after making threats to farmer Francis Pogson of Gedling.
At the Nottm Quarter Sessions 4th Jan 1841 he was found guilty of threatening bodily harm to the same person and was sentenced to serve 12 months in the Nttingham County Gaol.
Later at the Notingham Quarter sessions 17th October 1842 he received 1 months jail with hard labour for stealing 2 quarts ofmilk value 4 pence the property of Robin Martin.
If you are in the Nottm area the Gaol can be visited as it is part of the Galleries of Justice Museum in the lace market area and well worth a visit.
How are you related to Gervas.?
John

[MarkJ]

If you are in the Nottm area the Gaol can be visited as it is part of the Galleries of Justice Museum in the lace market area and well worth a visit.
How are you related to Gervas.?
John

So it wasn't the same prison as now then? The prison I remember (not as a prisoner before you all start!) was on Perry Road in Sherwood.
Where abouts in the Lace Market was the old one? I know the area vaguely - I worked just on Castle Boulevard for a couple of years and walked to work that way.

Mark

[Rod Neep]

The prison was in High Pavement.

The building is still there. Interestingly there is a covered up spelling error in the huge letters carved into the stone on the front of the building.

The word "GAOL" was spelled as "GOAL", the letters filled in and re-carved correctly. But you can still see it. :)

Rod

[badger64]

So it wasn't the same prison as now then? The prison I remember (not as a prisoner before you all start!) was on Perry Road in Sherwood.
Where abouts in the Lace Market was the old one? I know the area vaguely - I worked just on Castle Boulevard for a couple of years and walked to work that way.

Mark
You may know the building as the Shire Hall in the Lace Market and it is against St Marys Church.As well as the old courtrooms there are the
original 19th century prison,a transportation pit,condemned cells etc all
original.Look it up on the net
John

[uksearch]

Would that be listed as an OG against the mason?

[Rod Neep]

Nottingham County Gaol. High Pavement.

http://www.nottingham21.co.uk/images/NB00207.JPG

Note the lettering on the word "GAOL" changed from "GOAL"

[MarkJ]

I see what you mean Rod! I bet someone got in serious bother for that!
Next time I get up to the city, I shall be checking that out.

Mark

[star*65]

There was also the Nottingham House of Correction, in which my g-g-grandfather spent some time around 1850. That was where King Edward Court is now, next to The Palais.

[mattjarvis8]

Dear Badger64,
Thanks for the very interesting information. I didn't spot that anyone had replied otherwise I would have replied earlier.
Gervas was my mothers fathers, fathers,fathers father! We are descended from Gervas's son James. How are you related?
Where did you get the information? I got someone to look in the QS records and they came back with this:

Gervas Shelton 6th June (1840) Convicting Magistrates
Thomas Webb Edge & Charles Pagis Esquires Offence : Assault.

regards,
Matt

[badger64]

hi matt
Ifound that gervas was in the county gaol off the 1841 census and then looked up the nottingham assizes record at the notts archives.
Gervas was a ggg grandfather of mine and his daughter married Birkett Turgoose. My mothers maiden name was turgoose.So it looks like that we are
distant cousins.
regards
John

[badger64]

Matt
Gervas's daughter that married Birkett Turgoose was named Elizabeth and at the 1841 census when gervas wasin gaol the family were living at Lambley,Notts. Birkett and Elizabeth lived to ripe old ages and are buried in
Carlton Cemetery.
john