1851/61 lookup please/GATES

[Sharon Medley]

I have found a James & Elizabeth Gates in 1881 census/dwelling: Broken Cross
Place: Rudheath, Cheshire. James occupation: blacksmith
James born abt. 1811...Elizabeth born about 1813.
Could someone be kind enough to see if they are in the 51/61 census with a son Frederick born 1846?
Thank you,
Sharon

[Carrie Meerten]

1861 - RG9/2607 f108 p16 s69

Civil parish: Rudheath
Ecclesiastical parish: Davenham
County/Island: Cheshire
Country: England
Registration district: Northwich
Sub-registration district: Middlewich
Address: Broken Cross

Elizabeth Gates abt 1812 Davenham, Cheshire, England Wife
James Gates abt 1810 Antasbus, Cheshire, England Head, married, blacksmith employing 1 man
James Gates abt 1844 Davenham, Cheshire, England Son, unmarried, joiner apprentice
John Gates abt 1835 Davenham, Cheshire, England Son, unmarried, blacksmith
Thomas Gates abt 1846 Budworth, Cheshire, England Son, unmarried, blacksmith apprentice

family was transcribed as Yates, which was an easy mistake as the enumerator had 'fancy' writing.

[Carrie Meerten]

1851 - HO107/2166 f267 p7 s23

Civil parish: Rudheath
Ecclesiastical parish: Davenham
County/Island: Cheshire
Country: England
Registration district: Northwich
Sub-registration district: Over
Address: Broken Cross

Elizabeth Yates abt 1812 Davenham, Cheshire, England Wife
Elizabeth Yates abt 1840 Davenham, Cheshire, England Daughter, scholar
James Yates abt 1811 Crowley, Cheshire, England Head, married, blacksmith master employing one son
James Yates abt 1843 Rudheath, Cheshire, England Son, scholar
John Yates abt 1834 Davenham, Cheshire, England Son, unmarried, blacksmith
Thomas Yates abt 1846 Rudheath, Cheshire, England Son, scholar

transcribed and enumerator written as Yates

[Sharon Medley]

Thank you so much Carrie, that is the family from 1881, but sadly not the family that I am looking for unless for some reason Frederick changed his name when arriving in Canada in 1865.
Sharon

[Carrie Meerten]

no problem. happy to have helped. do you know if frederick had a second name? if unsure then this could still be them.

[Sharon Medley]

Carrie, Have not found any second name in any of his Canadian records.
Sharon

[nicksey]

Hi Everyone,

Just an addition to this thread, there is still a blacksmith at Broken Cross (Broken Cross Smithy), Rudheath probably the same one that James and Elizabeth GATES were at back in 1881

Regards

Nicksey