Strays from Cornwall in Cardiff

[Scottie]

Just popped up from Cornwall to ask a big favour :D Could someone take a look in the 1871 census for Thomas England born 1854 in Padstow, Cornwall. I have him there in 1881 by which time he was married to Catherine Carey and had a 7 year old daughter Alice.

I think there will be quite a few Cornish strays up there and I am interested in them all really so long as they come from my area. I would be grateful for any census sightings in 1851, 61 and 71 |bowdown|

[Trish]

With pleasure, Scottie -- here's Thomas ENGLAND in 1871:

[I have taken a stab at the street address -- maybe someone else verify my guess...]

4 South Morgan St, Canton, Glamorgan
RG10/5365 Folio 123 Page 79

Humphrey ENGLAND Head Mar 44 Ship Carpenter [born] Cornwall Padstow
Mary Do Wife Do 41 Tailoress Do
Thomas Do Son Unmar 17 Labourer Do

Are you looking specifically for ENGLAND strays in the '51, '61 and '71 censuses for Wales?

HTH,
Trish

[Trish]

Here's a Cornish ENGLAND in Wales in 1861:

Neath Buoy, Glamorgan, Wales
RG9/4528 Folio 23 Page _

LIST of the CREW and OTHERS on BOARD of the SHIP or VESSEL called the Phoenix

John ENGLAND Married 54 Master [born] Cornwal [sic] Padstow
John JONES unMarried 19 Mate Cornwal WadeBridge
John CRADIE? unmarried 40 Able Seaman Cornwal WadeBridge

Trish

[Trish]

And another [semi] Cornish ENGLAND household in 1871 -- is Illogan close to Padstow?

10 Eleanor Street, Cardiff, Glamorgan, Wales
RG10/5364 Folio 28 Page 36/37

Edwin ENGLAND Head Mar 31 Mariner [born] Gloucestershire; Thornbury
Next page...
Sarah Jane ENGLAND Wife Mar 32 Cornwall: Illogan
Mary Ann Do Daur 7 Scholar Do
Joseph WILSON Boarder Unm 32 Mariner Sussex Brighton

Trish

[Scottie]

Here's a Cornish ENGLAND in Wales in 1861:

John CRADIE? unmarried 40 Able Seaman Cornwal WadeBridge

Trish
Thanks a million for all these Trish. This is actually John Craddock according to the 1851 census when he was in Wadebridge in case anyone else is looking.

[Scottie]

And another [semi] Cornish ENGLAND household in 1871 -- is Illogan close to Padstow?
Trish
Well not that close :D about 35 miles and her husband is not one of my England clan but someone might love her so thank you.

[Scottie]

With pleasure, Scottie -- here's Thomas ENGLAND in 1871:
Are you looking specifically for ENGLAND strays in the '51, '61 and '71 censuses for Wales?
Trish
No I am looking for all strays from my area really as I am reconstructing all the families. Many of the ship carpenters spent years in Cardiff or Portsmouth or Plymouth. Sometimes their wives were left at home but mostly they either went with them or the single men came back with a wife from the area. A few years ago someone sent me all the strays but not the households for them. Now I am fishing for the ones that got away ;)

I do appreciate your help and can return the favour if you need someone from Cornwall.

[Trish]

...I do appreciate your help and can return the favour if you need someone from Cornwall.I might take you up on that when I get a chance... I have 19th century ancestors who flitted in and out of Cornwall -- which is, by the way, an awesome part of the world!

Trish
[Canada]

[Trish]

Thanks a million for all these Trish. This is actually John Craddock according to the 1851 census when he was in Wadebridge in case anyone else is looking.Aha! I looked at the image again -- and, indeed, the enumerator actually wrote "Cradoc"! Good eye, Scottie.

Trish

[Trish]

By the way, the 1861 census for Wales lists 102 people as born in Padstow, Cornwall and living in Wales, mostly Glamorgan. I'm sure there's more as I've noticed Padstow frequently mistranscribed as something else and a search wouldn't pick these up.

The 1871 census has 138 and the 1891, 188.

Too many to list for you, but if there's any names in particular, I can fish them out...

Trish

[Scottie]

Thanks Trish. I will Email you privately if I have more queries |hug|

[brianb]

Richard TAYLOR baptism entry -

15 August 1831. Parents were John and Ann. John was an Excise man and they lived in Summercourt village, St Enoder Parish

Richard married Mary Ann Baynton of Bristol, b1829 and their daughter Elizabeth married David Furnish in 1881 !

Richard and his family were living in Cardiff, Glamorgan in 1881.

[Scottie]

Thank you very much brianb. This is appreciated and I will add the details to the database with credit to you.