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norfolk white
29-11-2005, 9:16 AM
Edward Clough, the son of Samuel and Martha, was born 1840/41 in Backford (according to marriage and census records). He married Ellen Jones, born 1849/50 also at backford (again according to marriage and census records) on 29 Dec 1870 at St Oswalds Church, Backford.

The census records for 1851 and 1881 state
1851 CENSUS (taken 30 March 1851): Edward was 10 years old, a
scholar, living with his family in Backford and being born in Backford,
Cheshire.

1881 CENSUS: shows that Edward was 36 years old (this would mean that he was born in 1845 not 1841), born in Backford, employed as a Railway Laborer, and living with his wife, Ellen, at 60, Cornwall Street, Chester.

They had at least one child, a son, Charles, who was christened 6 May 1881 at St Oswalds Church, Backford

Has any one got any further info on thsi family, etc.

Thanks,

Ivor

WaltonAus
07-06-2006, 9:33 AM
Hello Ivor, I had a look on the BVRI and found the following:

CLOUGH, Edward
Wife:Ellen PEMBERTON
Marriage Date: 10 Feb 1867 Wallasey, Cheshire, England
FHL Film 1737061

It may well be unrelated but worth a look.
Kind Regards
Peter Euston

norfolk white
09-06-2006, 8:27 PM
Peter,

Thank you very much for your help. Hope things are going well down under.

Thanks again,

Ivor

Wirral
09-06-2006, 10:03 PM
The Clough/Pemberton marriage was at St Hilary's, Wallasey, which is the parish church of where I live. They have the records at the library, so I'll nip up tomorrow & see if the film reader is free. As they only have the one reader & the library shuts at 1pm, it may have to wait until next week. It probably isn't your Edward, but you never know. I've already researched the Pembertons of Wallasey & of Bidston for other people.

Wirral
09-06-2006, 10:26 PM
Looks like the 1881 census age is the incorrect one.

1841 census HO107/123/1 folio 6 page 6, Backford, Chester, Cheshire
Saml. Clough 39 labourer
Martha " 46
Thos " 19
William " 19
Saml. " 12
Eliza " 8
Mary " 6
Martha " 2
Edward " 8mths
Saml. Engless 18

Samuel Engless was born in Ireland, all the Cloughs were born in Cheshire. In the 1841 census the ages 15+ should have been rounded down to the nearest 5 years. In this case they were not. Also, the enumerator wrote that Thomas & William were twins. Any other twins in your family? :)

norfolk white
16-06-2006, 12:11 PM
Wirral,

That's great. Thanks. No I have not come across any other twins and there are no twins in any of my living families.

Regards,

ivor

norfolk white
28-06-2008, 8:15 AM
Just to bring this back to the top incase some haven'e seen the thread that might be able to help.

thanks,

Ivor

Fiona67
17-07-2008, 11:05 PM
Hi Ivor
Charles is the only child listed on the IGI

Charles Samuel CLOUGH Pedigree
Male


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Event(s):
Birth:
Christening: 06 MAY 1881 St Oswald'S, Chester, Cheshire, England

Death:
Burial:


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Parents:
Father: Edward CLOUGH Family
Mother: Ellen JONES


Regards
Fiona

Fiona67
17-07-2008, 11:16 PM
Name: Edward Clough
Age: 50
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1841
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Ellen
Gender: Male
Where born: Backford, Cheshire, England

Civil Parish: Croughton
Ecclesiastical parish: St Oswald
Town: Croughton
County/Island: Cheshire
Country: England

Street address: 53 The Lodge

Occupation: General Labourer

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Chester
Sub registration district: Chester Cathedral
ED, institution, or vessel: 21
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Arthur Clough 5
Charles Clough
Edward Clough 50
Ellen Clough 43
Mary Clough 7
Sarah Jones 41


The census says Charles was born Newtown Cheshire but doesn't give an age. He was a scholar
Mary was born 1884 Cheshire scholar
Arthur was born 1886 Backford scholar
Ellen was born 1848 backforn

Interestingly on the census records there were 2 Edward Clough's both born about 1840 in Cheshire andboth with wives Ellen

Hope that helps
Regards
Fiona

Fiona67
17-07-2008, 11:21 PM
Name: Edward Clough
Age: 60
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1841
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Ellen
Gender: Male
Where born: Backford, Cheshire, England

Civil Parish: Lower Bebington
Ecclesiastical parish: St Andrew
Town: Lower Bedington
County/Island: Cheshire
Country: England

Street address: 11 Acres Road

Occupation: Domestic Gardener

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Wirral
Sub registration district: Bebington
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 138
Household Members: Name Age
Arthur E Clough 16
Charles S Clough 19
Edward Clough 60
Ellen Clough 52
Mary E Clough 17

Charles & Arthur also domestic gardeners

Regards
Fiona

Squaredancer
17-07-2008, 11:24 PM
Just to make it interesting (or confusing?)

The IGI also has these submitted records of 2 more children born to Edward Clough and Ellen Jones:

Mary E Clough 1884 Backford Or Newtown, , Cheshire, England
Arthur E Clough 1886 Backford, Cheshire, England :)

Fiona67
17-07-2008, 11:27 PM
Samuel CLOUGH Pedigree
Male Family


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Event(s):
Birth: 1800 Of Chorlton, Backford, Cheshire, England

Christening:
Death: 11 FEB 1875

Burial:


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Marriages:
Spouse: Martha Family
Marriage: About 1821 Of Chorlton, Backford, Cheshire, England

Fiona67
17-07-2008, 11:37 PM
Hi Ivor
I am sorry if you have this information, I just thought I'd find a bit of background for you. It comes from the IGI so I have no idea how accurate it is

Regards
Fiona


Thomas CLOUGH Pedigree
Male


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Event(s):
Birth: 1822 Of Chorlton, Backford, Cheshire, England

Christening:
Death: 27 SEP 1856

Burial:


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Parents:
Father: Samuel CLOUGH Family
Mother: Martha

William CLOUGH Pedigree
Male


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Event(s):
Birth: 1822 Of Chorlton, Backford, Cheshire, England

Christening:
Death: 28 FEB 1854

Burial:


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Parents:
Father: Samuel CLOUGH Family
Mother: Martha


Samuel CLOUGH Pedigree
Male


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Event(s):
Birth: 1829 Backford, Cheshire, England

Christening:
Death: 17 JAN 1867

Burial:


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Parents:
Father: Samuel CLOUGH Family
Mother: Martha


Ann CLOUGH Pedigree
Female Family


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Event(s):
Birth: 1825 Chorlton, Backford, Cheshire, England

Christening:
Death:
Burial:


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Parents:
Father: Samuel CLOUGH Family
Mother: Martha

Edward CLOUGH Pedigree
Male Family


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Event(s):
Birth: About 1841 Backford, Cheshire, England

Christening:
Death:
Burial:


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Parents:
Father: Samuel CLOUGH Family
Mother: Martha


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Marriages:
Spouse: Ellen JONES Family
Marriage: 29 DEC 1870 St Oswalds, Backford, Cheshire, England

Sarah CLOUGH Pedigree
Female


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Event(s):
Birth: About 1829 Of, Backford, Cheshire, England

Christening:
Death:
Burial:


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Parents:
Father: Samuel CLOUGH Family
Mother: Martha


John CLOUGH Pedigree
Male


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Event(s):
Birth: About 1827 Backford, Cheshire, England

Christening:
Death:
Burial:


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Parents:
Father: Samuel CLOUGH Family
Mother: Martha


Eliza CLOUGH Pedigree
Female Family


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Event(s):
Birth: 1833 Backford, Cheshire, England

Christening:
Death:
Burial:


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Parents:
Father: Samuel CLOUGH Family
Mother: Martha


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Marriages:
Spouse: William HEWITT Family
Marriage: 03 JUL 1861 St Oswald, Backford, Cheshire, England


Mary CLOUGH Pedigree
Female


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Event(s):
Birth: 1835 Backford, Cheshire, England

Christening:
Death:
Burial:


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Parents:
Father: Samuel CLOUGH Family
Mother: Martha

norfolk white
18-07-2008, 2:19 PM
Fiona,

Thanks for this although, as you suspected, I do already have the details of this family, but thanks anyway.

Ivor

norfolk white
18-07-2008, 2:21 PM
Name: Edward Clough
Age: 60
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1841
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Ellen
Gender: Male
Where born: Backford, Cheshire, England

Civil Parish: Lower Bebington
Ecclesiastical parish: St Andrew
Town: Lower Bedington
County/Island: Cheshire
Country: England

Street address: 11 Acres Road

Occupation: Domestic Gardener

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Wirral
Sub registration district: Bebington
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 138
Household Members: Name Age
Arthur E Clough 16
Charles S Clough 19
Edward Clough 60
Ellen Clough 52
Mary E Clough 17

Charles & Arthur also domestic gardeners

Regards
Fiona

Fiona,

Thanks for all of this info, it will be of great help.

Ivor