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NettleBranches
28-11-2018, 5:59 PM
I'm looking for information on the Treharne family, from Carmarthenshire. The furtherest I can go back is to Joshua Treharne, born 1806 in Llannon (for some reason, his baptism index says "Traharn" instead". Josh would later move to Breconshire and get married twice. I want to know more about Joshua's family his parents for instance,) as well as info on his first wife, Mary Thomas, whom he married in 1838, I believe.

christanel
28-11-2018, 6:32 PM
Hi I have taken this from your post in Surname Interests and given it its own place in the Carmarthenshire forum.
I am sure others will be along to help and will be asking for more information.
Christina

christanel
28-11-2018, 8:17 PM
So this is Joshua in 1851? Ann Herbert is his second wife?
HO107 Piece 380 Folio 20 page 65
Club Row Llannelly Crickhowell Breconshire
Joshua Treharne 46 Engineer Llanon
Ann Treharne 41 Dowlais, Glamorgan,
Elizabeth Treharne 10 Llanelly, Breconshire
John Treharne 7 Llanelly, Breconshire
David Thomas 61 Lodger Llanthetty, Breconshire
Frederick Morgan 18 Lodger Llanetty, Breconshire
Benjamin Price 58 Visitor Llanwenarth, Monmouthshire

In 1841 Joshua is alone with his daughter Eliza age 5? months in Llanelly

Christina

christanel
28-11-2018, 8:26 PM
Birth registration
Eliza Treharne December 1/4 1841 registration district Merthyr Tydfil vol 26 page 378. Mother's maiden name Davies.
I got this birth reg from the GRO index but can't see it on FreeBMD


Christina

NettleBranches
28-11-2018, 9:19 PM
Yes, Ann Herbert was his 2nd marriage. I don't think Eliza from Merthyr Tydfil is his child though. I have reason to believe that Elizabeth, his first daughter was born in Crickhowell district in Breconshire, which also covers Llanelly

almach
29-11-2018, 12:56 AM
I'm looking for information on the Treharne family, from Carmarthenshire. The furtherest I can go back is to Joshua Treharne, born 1806 in Llannon (for some reason, his baptism index says "Traharn" instead". Josh would later move to Breconshire and get married twice. I want to know more about Joshua's family his parents for instance,) as well as info on his first wife, Mary Thomas, whom he married in 1838, I believe.

One or other of Joshua's marriage certificates will give you his father's name and occupation. His marriage certificate to Mary Thomas is online at FMP, their T&C's don't allow us to post details but most public libraries offer members access to FMP's databases. I can tell you the marriage gives the fathers names and occupations. I haven't looked yet for Joshua's second marriage.

Pam Downes
29-11-2018, 2:49 AM
Birth registration
Eliza Treharne December 1/4 1841 registration district Merthyr Tydfil vol 26 page 378. Mother's maiden name Davies.
I got this birth reg from the GRO index but can't see it on FreeBMD

Christina

That can't be the Eliza from the 1841 census, because the census was taken on the 6 June 1841, which was some time before the December registration quarter began. :smile5:

Pam

christanel
29-11-2018, 6:47 AM
That can't be the Eliza from the 1841 census, because the census was taken on the 6 June 1841, which was some time before the December registration quarter began. :smile5:

Pam

Thanks for pulling me up on this Pam. :biggrin: sometimes I am not of this planet.

Christina

NettleBranches
30-11-2018, 2:12 PM
Just had a look at that certificate on FMP and I found it very informative. It told me the names of Josh and Mary's fathers and occupations. Disappointingly though, it didn't say thier ages; instead saying "of full age."

brentor boy
01-12-2018, 9:15 AM
Free Reg has the marriage of Joshua Treharn and Margaret Bowen in Llanon on 30 November 1804. Looks interesting.
Groom from Llangendeirne.

brentor boy
01-12-2018, 10:48 AM
From London Gazette. 21 May 1830.
Joshua Treharne, late of Pontyberrem in the parish of Llangendeirne in the county of Carmarthen, shopkeeper, but now of Cwmllethrig, of the same parish, farmer, that he is in insolvent circumstances and unable to meet engagements with his creditors.

brentor boy
01-12-2018, 11:02 AM
From Family Search.
Baptism. Joshua Treharne. 16 Dec 1783. Llangendeirne. ( no parents named)

brentor boy
01-12-2018, 11:16 AM
In 1841, 1851, Joshua, snr, with wife Maria, living in Llanelli.
Marriage. Joshua Treharn/Maria Davies. 4 June 1828. Dafen, Carms.

brentor boy
01-12-2018, 1:48 PM
Free Reg.
Burial. Margaret Treharne, age 40, of Pontyberem, Llanelli. St Cynderyn, Llangynderyn. 27 March 1825.

christanel
01-12-2018, 6:22 PM
Great finds brentor boy, NettleBranches should be very pleased with your finds.
Christina

brentor boy
01-12-2018, 9:24 PM
Christina
In 1841 Joshua is alone with daughter Eliza age 5? months in Llanelly

Living with his in-laws? Wife Mary recorded in her maiden name?

Free Reg. Possible baptism for Mary Thomas. 17 Oct 1813. St David, Llywel, Brecknockshire. Daughter of John and Anne.

Possible death. Mary Ann Treharne, age32. Jun q 1845. Crickhowell.

Birth/Death. Mary Ann Treharne Jun q 1845 Crickhowell (mmn Thomas)

christanel
01-12-2018, 10:42 PM
Christina
In 1841 Joshua is alone with daughter Eliza age 5? months in Llanelly





by brentor boy
Living with his in-laws? Wife Mary recorded in her maiden name?


What a good spot :smile5: I couldn't even make out the surname of those above Joshua until you pointed it out. Thanks again.
Christina

NettleBranches
08-12-2018, 5:16 PM
Good find, brentor! Unfortunately, I've found a hole. When Joshua got baptised in 1806, his mother was listed as Elizabeth and not Margaret (it's on FMP).

brentor boy
08-12-2018, 5:25 PM
Shame. I thought I was onto something. Pity I did not have the full details of Joshua's baptism. I was relying on "free to view" sites.