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holty
21-12-2006, 5:53 PM
I have John Hoult born (Loughborough ? ) 1797 to Ann Vine ? 1800 married 1823 and believe that while they resided in Loughborough for most of their lives and up until their deaths in 1881 and 1875 may have been both been born and married in Nottinghamshire . I have had 3rd party researchers check Loughborough records without success. I also have their 1st 2 children as born in Stanford .
This is my "brick wall" as believe it is where my name John Vine Holt originally comes from

Any assistance or advise please ?

Regards ,
John .

Merry Christmas to all

Pat English
23-12-2006, 3:04 PM
Have you looked in the English Census?
In 1851 there is someone fitting the description, and it says John and Ann are born in Loughborough:

(HO 107/2085 page 11)
Pinfold Gate, Loughborough
Head John HOULT, 54, labourer, Leicestershire Loughborough
Wife Ann HOULT, 54, seamer at ?, Leicestershire Loughborough
Son John HOULT, 27, labourer, Leicestershire Loughborough
Daughter in law Eliza HOULT, 21, cotton shirt (?) hand, London
Son William HOULT, 21, unmarried, cotton wahrp (warp?) hand, Nottinghamshire Sanford
Son James HOULT, 19, single, F (?) NK (not known?) Leicestershire Loughborough
Daughter Eliza HOULT, 16, single, cotton shirt hand, Leicestershire Loughborough
Son Hugo HOULT, 14, single, scholar, Leicestershire Loughborough

In 1861 they are still here and it says John is born in Leicester itself:
(RG 9/2274 page 9)
Pinfold Gate, Loughborough
Head John HOLT, 61, sexton, Leicestershire. Leicester
Wife Ann HOLT, 63, cotton shirt seamer, Leicestershire, Loughborough
Lodger: Elizabeth Mac Dawell, 25, married,
angola (angora?) reeler, Leicestershire, Loughborough

In 1871 they are the same:
(RG 10/3255 page 9)
Pinfold Gate No 22, Loughborough
Head John HOULT, 72, gardener's labourer, Leicester
Wife Ann HOULT, 73, Leicestershire, Loughborough

Also, on Familysearch.co.uk there is an IGI record for a John Hoult marrying an Elizabeth Jones at St Margaret, Leicester, on January 9, 1797. Could be your John's parents?

Do you have any of this?

Pat









I have John Hoult born (Loughborough ? ) 1797 to Ann Vine ? 1800 married 1823 and believe that while they resided in Loughborough for most of their lives and up until their deaths in 1881 and 1875 may have been both been born and married in Nottinghamshire . I have had 3rd party researchers check Loughborough records without success. I also have their 1st 2 children as born in Stanford .
This is my "brick wall" as believe it is where my name John Vine Holt originally comes from

holty
23-12-2006, 7:38 PM
Hello Pat ,
Thank you for your reply.
Yes I have most of the information your suppplied me.

I have just paid the Leicester Records office to search ,

"Loughborough Parish Registers DE 667/5; /6
Marriage Index Leicestershire L.R.F.H.S.
Marriage Index Leicester L.R.F.H.S.
Marriage Bond Index
Strays Indexes Volumes I-VIII"

with no results for John and Ann or the eldest son John .

I also posted on the Leicestershire forum a few months back without a single reply.

I have also had a paid Notts researcher check Stanford on Soar and cant find any marriage for John or Ann either .

There are "other" Hoults and Vines they may be siblings and parents but am stuck on this one which is obviously the most important one my tree. :)

Again many thanks for your reply,
John