PDA

View Full Version : Was my missing ancestor killed in the war?



A Lee
30-11-2006, 9:54 PM
I have a bit of a mystery. One of my relatives is age 8 in the 1901 census and after that he's just disappeared. I have checked all the deaths up to the present day and he is not there. There is no record of a marriage either. It is my gut feeling that the most likely explanation is he was killed in the war. I have had a quick look on the national archives site and have found nothing immediately leading me to him and everything else seems to charge.

Is my only hope of finding him to pay? Where else could I look?

Thanks

Geoffers
30-11-2006, 10:17 PM
Have you tried the Commonwealth War Graves Commission?http://www.cwgc.org/

Or the database of Soliders who died in the Great War? - It's on find my past

Geoffers

Wirral
30-11-2006, 10:20 PM
The Commonwealth War Graves Commission site is free to search. www.cwgc.org (http://www.cwgc.org/)
Have you also searched the miscellaneous deaths, such as Marine deaths, Consular deaths (for deaths overseas), Army deaths?
(Rats, Geoffers beat me to it!)
Or did he emigrate?

A Lee
30-11-2006, 10:25 PM
Thanks for the tip Geoffers, I shall have a look:)

susan-w
30-11-2006, 11:10 PM
The fact that you haven't found his death suggests that he may have emigrated (I'm always an optimist). My uncle survived WWI and emigrated to NZ. But sadly he was one of only two in his class at school who did survive.

Are there any other members of the family who emigrated, as that might give you a pointer as to where to start your search?

Cheers
Sue

Ed Bradford
01-12-2006, 1:55 AM
You might also look at the immigration records of the USA. A good place to start is Ellis Island. http://www.ellisislandrecords.org/
…………Ed

A Lee
01-12-2006, 10:33 AM
Wirral, our messages crossed over last night and when I tried to go back and acknowledge your comments I was plagued by the dreaded 'busy server' message. Anyway, thanks for the advice!:)

Also thank you Ed and Susan for your comments. :):)
Obviously, emigration is the other possibility. I did have a look on Ellis Island the other day as it was free through Ancestry and they sent me an email but I found nothing there - unless, of course, his name had been mispelt.

How do you find out about emigration to other places e.g.Europe?

If a soldier was killed in service but not in this country where would the record be? Wirral, you mentioned consular deaths. Is that conclusive or could there be records elsewhere?

Sorry to appear so clueless:confused:

Procat
01-12-2006, 10:43 AM
If a soldier was killed in service but not in this country where would the record be?

The Commonwealth War Graves Commission site lists the deaths of all known Commonwealth service personnel who died in the two World Wars no matter where that death occurred.

A Lee
01-12-2006, 10:45 AM
Great, thanks for that Procat:)

peter nicholl
01-12-2006, 5:41 PM
Hi
Being NOSEY!! what was his name?????????
Peter

A Lee
01-12-2006, 9:23 PM
William J Hammant b. abt 1892.

Thanks:)

peter nicholl
05-12-2006, 4:59 PM
William J Hammant b. abt 1892.

Thanks:)Thanks, as emigration has been mentioned I tried the Australian National Archives, Australian War Memorial and the Canadian National Archives, but they all gave a zero return. But then not everyone joined up.
Peter

A Lee
06-12-2006, 12:01 AM
Thanks for your efforts anyway, Peter|hug|

SueL
27-12-2006, 9:30 PM
just an idea....

From TNA:

Family History: WW1 Campaign Medals
Medal card of Hamment, William J
Corps: Machine Gun Corps
Regiment No: 54425
Rank: Serjeant
1914-1920 WO 372/8

Regards,
sueL

Neil Wilson
27-12-2006, 10:18 PM
Hi

Played around with the spelling of his surname on CWGC site and came up with this
HAMMETT, WILLIAM JOHN (http://www.cwgc.org/search/casualty_details.aspx?casualty=788836)
Private
7586
01/07/1916
Royal Fusiliers
United Kingdom
Pier and Face 8 C 9 A and 16 A.THIEPVAL MEMORIAL

Worth a try
Neil

A Lee
27-12-2006, 10:41 PM
Thanks for the replies Neil and Sue I shall look into that|hug|

steviebee
28-12-2006, 6:36 PM
hi, just searched my soldiers died in the great war 1914-19 and only hamment was an Arthur Charles of the Suffolk regt. Sorry I cant help but glad he is not mentioned if you know what I mean
regards
Steve

SueL
29-12-2006, 11:16 PM
sorry to say, I couldn't trace your William J Hammant :(

The medal Card for William J HAMMENT didn't give any additional info except that he was awarded the Victory & British Medals and the medal card for William John HAMMETT only stated that he was from the 11th Ryl Fus and was awarded the Victory, British & 15 Star medals (KIA France 26/7/1915)

I searched the WO363 class (H134, H216, M/S43) and found only these:
Robert Alfred HAMMANT
Joseph Charles "
George John "
Frederick "

3 X William John HAMMETT
(no soldiers named HAMMENT)

but none of these seven matched the info you sent me re his place of birth or his parents names.

On the off chance I also searched WO364 / 1501, 4914, 5265, 5803 just incase his record had got into the completely wrong place! |shakehead

...but no, I'm afraid I couldn't help at all :( sorry...
Regards,
sueL

A Lee
29-12-2006, 11:23 PM
Not to worry. Thank you SueL for your efforts. I am very grateful that you went to so much trouble even though you didn't find anything.:)

Thanks|wave|

Alison