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Omega
26-11-2006, 8:31 AM
Can someone help me with the best link to look up WW1 soldiers who were killed in action please?

Deirdre

keith9351
26-11-2006, 9:11 AM
I was going to say :- http://www.cwgc.org/
Until somebody mentioned the cricket.
Keith

Procat
26-11-2006, 11:20 AM
Can someone help me with the best link to look up WW1 soldiers who were killed in action please?

Deirdre

English or Australian?

The link Keith gave covers all those killed.

However, if he was Australian go to:
http://www.naa.gov.au/collection/recordsearch/index.aspx

Select Search Now - as a guest

Enter his name in the Keywords box and you will end up with a list of names that fit. Find the correct one and you should have a digitised image of his service record available.

The records are available for all WWI servicemen - not just those KIA.

Omega
26-11-2006, 1:04 PM
English or Australian?

The link Keith gave covers all those killed.

However, if he was Australian go to:

http://www.naa.gov.au/The_Collection/recordsearch.html

Select Search Now - as a guest

Enter his name in the Keywords box and you will end up with a list of names that fit. Find the correct one and you should have a digitised image of his service record available.

The records are available for all WWI servicemen - not just those KIA.

Doug - I had a quick try there and got 400 odd records so thought there may have been a site just for WW1 records. If I put the years of WW1 in will that narrow it down?

Thank you as always

Deirdre

Omega
26-11-2006, 1:08 PM
I was going to say :- http://www.cwgc.org/
Until somebody mentioned the cricket.
Keith

Awh gee Keith you can't keep a good Aussie down for ever.

Thanks for the link I'll have a look see at it. Appreciate your help.

Deirdre

PS Don't blame me GeoffD started it!!!!

Procat
26-11-2006, 1:14 PM
Hi Deirdre,

if you put in his name and then try adding in the key words rs@i which supposedly then restricts the search to those images which have been digitised

You could also try putting in 1914-1918 though I would possibly expand a year or two either side. The records also usually include their place and date of birth and name of next of kin. Try adding those.

Or use the series number B2455 which is Personnel Dossiers for First Australian Imperial Force Ex-Service Members.

Or you could go here http://www.awm.gov.au/nominalrolls/ww1/ and get his service number and put that in.

Having said all that beware of making the search too specific or you may not get your hit.

Sandra Parker
26-11-2006, 10:02 PM
I've also found http://1914-1918.invisionzone.com/forums/index.php? (http://1914-1918.invisionzone.com/forums/index.php) most helpful.
Sandra
and I won't mention the cricket either!

Omega
26-11-2006, 10:16 PM
I've also found http://1914-1918.invisionzone.com/forums/index.php? (http://1914-1918.invisionzone.com/forums/index.php) most helpful.
Sandra
and I won't mention the cricket either!

Thanks Sandra I will have a look see at this site also. Appreciate your time and advise.

Deirdre

Just think how the Kiwis feel about the Rugby League!

ChristineR
07-12-2006, 2:47 AM
Deidre, how did you go with using the archives site?

ChristineR :)

Mythology
07-12-2006, 4:06 AM
However, if he was Australian go to:

http://www.naa.gov.au/The_Collection/recordsearch.html
<snip>
The records are available for all WWI servicemen - not just those KIA.

I think that might need a very slight amendment. I suspect that possibly it only covers those who joined an Australian regiment, not all Australians who signed up. My Keith Debenham, who came to England in 1914 and joined the Highland Light Infantry, does not appear to be included.

(Edit - he gets a mention in the Melbourne Cricket Club Roll of Honour, but we will ignore that as we're not mentioning the cricket. ;) )

HelenVSmith
07-12-2006, 4:45 AM
Yes the National Archives site only covers those who joined Australian regiments regardless of whether they were Australian or English (always worth checking if you are missing some English sons that they didn't come out to Australia then join up in WW1)


This only recording the Australian regiments is also a problem when people such as my ggg grandfatehr went off to South Africa and joined the Cape Mounted Rifles in 1900 or so. Unfortunately there is no record of this in Australia and so far no record in South Africa and Kew doesn't have any records of the Cape Mounted Rifles in the Boer War of 1899-1902.

Another Australian site that is useful for military is the Australian War memorial site http://www.awm.gov.au/database/biographical.asp

Regards
Helen

GeoffD
07-12-2006, 5:19 AM
Omega, go to http://www.awm.gov.au/roh/ type in the surname, select World War 1 from the drop down panel, and see how you go. If you know a service number or date of death, select "advanced search".

GeoffD
07-12-2006, 5:24 AM
if you put in his name and then try adding in the key words rs@i which supposedly then restricts the search to those images which have been digitised.

As of fairly recently, almost all WW1 service records at NAA have been digitised. Very handy - no more long waits after requesting digitisation.

Omega
07-12-2006, 7:50 AM
Hi everyone, Christine I got some records that sound close but when I read them out to mum they didn't ring any bells. I am trying to jog her memory of her grandfathers brother and all she can remember is he lost two sons in WW1 there were a couple of Notts with the same mother and father but she just can't remember Henry Nott's brother's name. I have kept the printouts just in case they match up when she is well enough to go into the Justice Dept. again. She overwatered a plant on top of her entertainment unit and overreached and lifted the heavy pot down hence her back hasn't let her walk until around midday after hot packs and pain killers. She thinks she is 60 instead of 90 and wont ask for help. They have a supervisor in the units for just this purpose but she is just so independant. This stubbourness seems to travel down through the women in this family of course all but me...not. :D

Doug and Sandra I went into invisionzone and awm and pretty much found the same info in each and as I said above I got a couple of likelies (is that a word?) but will have to wait for the dratted marriage certificate. Just thought I could attack from a different angle but true to form for this g grandfather NO GO! Thank you all for your help with this and I have saved the links for future use.

Might I say at this point the help and information and the effort people go to be of that help on B-G Forum is remarkable and I appreciate the efforts you all go to in giving it. Thank you |hug| Deirdre (even if I am a Dirty Digger) ;)

Peter Goodey
07-12-2006, 8:32 AM
even if I am a Dirty Digger
Oh dear.

The 'Dirty Digger' is Rupert Murdoch specifically, not Australians in general. When applied to Murdoch, it was not intended to be complementary. The nickname has fallen out of fashion now because it was starting to sound affectionate and because he is now a US citizen.

GeoffD
07-12-2006, 9:59 PM
Omega, this stirred my curiosity a bit so, being quite familiar with AWM and NAA sites, I did a bit of quiet digging*. The Roll of Honour database at AWM has 5 NOTT deaths in WW1. A quick check of the Commemorative Roll for WW1 didn't show any NOTT deaths outside the First AIF.

One of the 5 was born in the UK, and two had parents John and Elizabeth. A quick look at the NAA digitised information shows that the father of one of them was still alive at the time (letter written by father in the records), while the other had pre-deceased his son by some years (as shown in a letter written by his mother). One family was in Geelong, the other in Dunedoo (near Mudgee). So clearly different John and Elizabeth NOTTs.

If you want to 'talk' about the delights (and pitfalls) of AWM and NAA sites, contact me directly by clicking on my handle up above.

* Ooooh, I love this new fast ADSL2 connection!

Omega
08-12-2006, 3:04 AM
Oh dear.

The 'Dirty Digger' is Rupert Murdoch specifically, not Australians in general. When applied to Murdoch, it was not intended to be complementary. The nickname has fallen out of fashion now because it was starting to sound affectionate and because he is now a US citizen.

Dont sweat it Peter I took it in good humor just couldn't resist the dig. ;)

I am a stirer from way back.

Deirdre

Omega
08-12-2006, 3:14 AM
Omega, this stirred my curiosity a bit so, being quite familiar with AWM and NAA sites, I did a bit of quiet digging*. The Roll of Honour database at AWM has 5 NOTT deaths in WW1. A quick check of the Commemorative Roll for WW1 didn't show any NOTT deaths outside the First AIF.
If you want to 'talk' about the delights (and pitfalls) of AWM and NAA sites, contact me directly by clicking on my handle up above.

Geoff, I stand corrected. The ones I got to read out to mum did come from AWM but none of them jogged her memory unfortunately. I will contact you soon about WW1. After all these wars you would think the world would learn a lesson and just try to get along with each other internally and externally wouldn't you? Ooops! forgot the world is mainly governed by men isn't it? The old saying "Men are just little boys with more expensive toys".
Sorry the devil made me do it.
:D Deirdre :D