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Brian Turnbull
16-03-2006, 9:10 AM
Recently on some part of the Forum a member gave information about "Courts" as addresses. I didn't think I needed this information at the time, but now I do, but cannot find the posting on the forum. I have relatives that had addresses 3 Court, Jack Lane, Hunslet, so I would like to know what the description of the "Court" is. Can anyone help on this one please?

Brian

Wirral
16-03-2006, 9:32 AM
Hi Brian
I think it was me, but i can't find where I wrote it either.:rolleyes:
However, a picture tells 1000 words:
http://www.mersey-gateway.org/server.php?show=ConGallery.67

Peter Goodey
16-03-2006, 11:29 AM
Basically, an alleyway led from the street to a courtyard which was surrounded by dwellings, usually multi-storey. They were not usually desirable residences!

Peter Goodey
16-03-2006, 12:22 PM
Thanks to "Making Use of the Census" published by the National Archives, I can draw your attention to the following diagram:

RG 10/3784 folio 31 page i

It's dead easy to find on film, but I don't suppose that Ancestry make it easy ;)

tony vines
16-03-2006, 8:56 PM
Spot on Peter! You can enter the reference but it returns nothing.

Loved the Liverpool slums archive though.

Peter Goodey
16-03-2006, 9:07 PM
I'm assured that it is somewhere on Ancestry but that it takes some lateral thinking to find it!

I'll have to leave it others to figure out exactly how to locate it.

Brian Turnbull
17-03-2006, 8:45 AM
Thanks all for the information provided. Special thanks to Wirral for the link to the photos. I have seen photos of the houses from the street in these areas, particularly Jack Lane but not seen the actual court.
Brian

Ken Boyce
17-03-2006, 7:55 PM
The subject of the old “courts” of London is intriguing as is that of the Alleys and Lanes

Court - an open space surrounded by buildings and walls, or a roofless area within a building

Alan Stapleton has written two books on the subject one of which has been published on CD by Archive CD Books

(Hopefully Rod will someday issue both on CD)

Ivor Hoole - Guide to Alleys, Courts, Passages and Yards of London is also an excellent reference (online)

Inputting the following string into the advance search feature of the LDS 1881 London-Middlesex Area (i.e. north of the Thames) returned approximately1700 households located in “Courts”

("dwelling court"/5)^(r|rd|road|st|street) - the latter part is to get rid of garbage

These “Courts” are scattered across most Civil Registration Districts and have names such as (to name a few):
Church Court, Blenheim Court, New Court (many Reg Districts have one of these), Hoopers Court, Union, Terrace, Britannia, Baron, Crown, Augusta, Crown, Dove, Rose & Crown, Blacklands, Johnsons, Perrins, Terretts, Paradise, Love, Rose, Caroline, Lees, Brand, Masons, Baxters, Fryons, Queens, Pump, Garden, Essex, Brick, Saffron, Dobneys, Ashentree, King Johns, Renous, Fashion, Sugar Loaf, Enocks, Hairbrain, Ohrens, Ropemakers Field Garden Court, Phoebe, Sun & Sawyers, Hanks, Dingle, Tuckers, Hampden
Typical number of street addresses/court varies from as low as one to as many as twenty sometimes more - Blenheim Court has addresses up to 101
Regards

Ken Boyce
17-03-2006, 8:15 PM
I screwed up my reference to Ivor Hoole who has an excellent site at

http://www.geocities.com/TheTropics/Cabana/9424/

My apologies to Ivor

get2BJ
20-03-2006, 12:09 AM
Brian/Wirral

I have found the original mention of the courts numbering system as noted by Wirral:

http://www.british-genealogy.com/forums/images/misc/navbits_start.gif (http://www.british-genealogy.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12171&page=2&pp=10#) B-G Forums (http://www.british-genealogy.com/forums/index.php?) > Family History (http://www.british-genealogy.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=1) > Place Forums (http://www.british-genealogy.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=2) > England Counties (http://www.british-genealogy.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=25) > Yorkshire (http://www.british-genealogy.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=151) > Yorkshire West Riding (http://www.british-genealogy.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=155) http://www.british-genealogy.com/forums/images/misc/navbits_finallink.gif (http://www.british-genealogy.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12171&page=2&pp=10) Brickwall Hollorn to Holland (Post No 17)

It's been overshadowed now of course by the other excellent information given in this thread but at least it puts your mind at rest as to where you saw it! (I hate having loose ends!)


Brenda