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pockets
10-01-2006, 12:33 AM
hi
I'm looking for Elizabeth Siddall from South Shields. born around 1870, 2years either side as the writing is hard to read whether she was 23 or 25 when my grandfather was born. Elizabeth migrated to New Zealand but as yet to trace the shipping list for her.
any sightings?
thanks for your assistance
Julianne

ChristineR
10-01-2006, 1:01 AM
Is this her family in 1881? (online Latterday Saints web site)

This is the only one that comes up born South Shields. If this is not her family then they may have all emigrated prior to the 1881 census.
Household Record 1881 British Census
Name Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation Disability
Samuel B. SIDDALL Head M Male 44 Staverley Bridge, York, England Theatre Proprietor (Thea Serv)
Julia A. SIDDALL Wife M Female 45 South Shields
James SIDDALL Son U Male 22 Leeds, York, England Manager Of Theatre (Ther Serv)
Adelaide SIDDALL Daur U Female 20 Leeds, York, England
Amelia SIDDALL Daur U Female 18 South Shields
Mary A. SIDDALL Daur U Female 15 South Shields
Elizabeth SIDDALL Daur U Female 9 South Shields

Source Information:
Dwelling Coronation St
Census Place South Shields, Durham, England
Family History Library Film 1342209
Public Records Office Reference RG11
Piece / Folio 5020 / 24
Page Number 17

pockets
10-01-2006, 4:16 AM
Thank you, yes I think it must be her as my mum has mentioned about the theatre. this is soooo very exciting as this is my second posting today with great results. Now to find her marriage certificate. Thanks heaps again :)
Julianne

Lancelot
11-01-2006, 3:16 PM
hi
I'm looking for Elizabeth Siddall from South Shields. born around 1870, 2years either side as the writing is hard to read whether she was 23 or 25 when my grandfather was born. Elizabeth migrated to New Zealand but as yet to trace the shipping list for her.
any sightings?
thanks for your assistance
Julianne

The BMD shows Elizabeth Siddall born September quarter 1871 at South Shields.

mima
18-01-2006, 12:02 AM
Julianne,

Elizabeth's father, Samuel Broadbent Siddall, died at Kamo New Zealand on 4 Feb 1889.

I have other info on Samuel if you would like to email me direct.

Marie-Louise
12-02-2016, 10:23 AM
Hi,

It's ten year later but I would like to react to this thread. I am searching for any information about Adelaide Siddall, the elder sister of Elisabeth. She married my grandfather, Jan Cornelis Küller on the 24th of november 1883 and divorced him on the 14 th of september, 1899. I am curious about her life afterwards & happy to receive any information about her background. Was she really an actress? Could you tell me more about the theatre, that belonged to her father, Samuel B Siddall? Did she migrate with the family to New-Zealand? Did she and my great-grandfather have children? Hope to hear from you. Thanks.

helachau
12-02-2016, 11:00 AM
In an 1885 court case for damages (which he won) Samuel B Siddall is described as "... the owner of the George Hotel, North Shields, the Grand Theatre, Mill Dam, South Shields and the Princess Theatre, North Shields."

http://www.arthurlloyd.co.uk/SouthShields.htm

Click on link and click on "The Grand Theatre & Cirque of Varieties"

helachau
12-02-2016, 11:12 AM
Also click on "the Royal Alhambra Music hall"

In 1874 Samuel B Siddall, proprietor of the Alhambra Music Hall was in Court and fined £5 for putting on a show without a licence.

Just shows you can't win them all!

Also click on "North Shields Theatres" and check out "Siddall's Concert Hall"

Marie-Louise
13-02-2016, 4:01 PM
Wow, delighted to discover these unexpected treasures in my.mail box. THANK YOU ever so much!!!!!:seeya:

helachau
14-02-2016, 4:08 PM
Was she really an actress?

On one occasion S B Siddall agreed to all four daughters appearing at Siddall's Grand Theatre & Cirque

"... Miss Polly Siddall, Soprano and Descriptive Vocalist; Miss Lizzie Siddall, the clever little burlesque Actress and Vocalist that can make you laugh; Sisters Amelia and Adelaide in a grand American Song and Dance Entertainment ... for this Night only, the Grand Duet entitled "Slavery Days" by Misses Polly and Lizzie Siddall ..." (Shields Daily Gazette, 22 Oct 1880)

The same paper,Nov 1892, reported Adelaide appearing in Amsterdam "... the honours of the evening were carried by this lady...", singing in English, German and French.

Marie-Louise
16-02-2016, 12:16 PM
Thank you very very much!!!!!! It's like visiting a real movie, made by one's own ancestors! A real antique road trip :-) :euro::chris: I will go on searching: these discoveries only made me more curious!

Dundee10
17-02-2016, 1:05 AM
You may already know that Elizabeth SIDDALL married firstly to Richard Charles DAWES in 1891. They divorced in 1906 and she remarried in 1907 to Henry Thomas HEAD. Her mother Julia Ann died in 1902:

Wairarapa Daily Times, Volume XXVI, Issue 7267, 24 September 1902, Page 2

On Monday night, an elderly lady named Mrs Julia Siddall, who has been residing in Colombo-road, Masterton, with her married daughter, Mrs Head, died from dropsy, combined with other ailments. The body of deceased, who was 61 years of age, is to be taken to Whangarei (Auckland) for interment.

In 1932 Elizabeth HEAD represented the next of kin of Adelaide Elizabeth STEPHEN when questions arose about a codicil in her will.

Auckland Star, Volume LXIII, Issue 61, 12 March 1932, Page 1

STEPHEN - At her residence, 170, Vauxhall Road, Devonport, Adelaide E., relict of the late Charles Stephen; aged 71 years.

STEPHEN - On March 10, 1932, at her late residence, 179, Vauxhall Road. Narrow Neck, Addie, dearly loved aunt of Lottie Barnes. Interred at Waikiekie.

Marriage

1895/222
Adelaide Elizabeth KULLER
Charles STEPHENS

Note the marriage year; did your Grandfather divorce her in her absence?

I cannot see any children for Adelaide.

https://bdmhistoricalrecords.dia.govt.nz/search/

A Mrs KULLER, Lady, departed the UK in 1894 on the ship Gothic bound for Port Chalmers in NZ.

You can search the NZ newspapers here http://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/cgi-bin/paperspast

Dundee10
17-02-2016, 1:52 AM
Searching the newspapers using the words SIDDALL BURLESQUE ('All of your words' option) together brings up results for the 1880s, also use SIDDALL FAMILY ('Exact Phrase' option). You can experiment a bit using other words found in those advertisements and articles - SIDDALL IMPERSONATOR shows that Lil(l)y was still performing in 1894. She did a brief tour in Sydney in April 1888:

http://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/result?q=%22lilly+siddall%22

Was 'Lilly' Amelia?

Marie-Louise
19-02-2016, 9:23 AM
I would like to thank you all for helping me tremendously!

I found Adelaide on the shippinglist and I found a wedding announcement of the Stephens' (great you find out she married this Charles Stephens in 1895) apparently only daughter;

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Taranaki Daily News , 13 February 1920, Page 4
1920/3280 (registration number)

MARRIAGE
UHLENBERG-STEPHENS
"At the Inglewoond Catholic Church, Paul Francis, oldest son of Mr. and Mrs. A. Uhlenberg to Adelaide Anne, only daughter to Mrs. A. Stephens."

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So I guess I now know the most important facts..
The only thing i still would love to have is a picture of Adelaide and her sisters.. to see what they looked like--- but
I am already thoroughly happy with all these unexpected GRAND results!!!!

THANKS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Marie-Louise
19-02-2016, 9:31 AM
Oh, and I don't know if Lilly was Amelia (or the other way around :-) and yes, I am almost sure my greatgrandfather divorced Adelaide in her absence. Still don't know much about his past..