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    Searching for my Grandfather who served in WWI.
    Name: William Key
    Two regiment number: 172078 & 26011

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    Found this,perhaps a member can help explain This!
    First name: W
    Last name Key
    Service number 26011
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    Unit / Battalion ?
    Originating Record WO 363. 24861 Herbert Lanning, Gloucestershire Regiment
    Series WO 363
    Record set British Army Service Records 1914-1920
    Category Military, armed forces & conflict
    Record collection First World War

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    On the WWI Service Medal and Award Rolls there is this

    Herbert Lanning
    Rank -Private
    Medal Awarded -British War Medal and Victory Medal
    Regiment or Corps -Gloucestershire Regiment
    Regimental Number -24861
    Previous Units -14th. Bn. Glouc. Regt. 24861 Pte.

    There is also a Medal Roll Index Card with the same name and number but no reference to a W Key. Also when I search for the regiment numbers without a name of the 30+ results none of them are for the surname Key.
    Medal Roll Index cards are free to search and view on ancestry until the end of the year.

    I was hoping the medal card would cross reference the two names and numbers as it did for my Dad's birth father. He actually enlisted in the army prior to WW1 in his own name then went AWOL. Joined up for WW1 using his mother's maiden name = went AWOL. Joined a third time under a completely different name with no connections to family. Had the cheek in 1925 to ask for his medals to be reissued in his correct name! His service records survived and helped explain all this.

    I can't see any service records under the names Key or Lanning.

    Is Lanning a family name by any chance?

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    Quote Originally Posted by trcopeland View Post
    Searching for my Grandfather who served in WWI.
    Name: William Key
    Two regiment number: 172078 & 26011
    Where and when was he born?

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    Originating Record WO 363. 24861 Herbert Lanning, Gloucestershire Regiment
    There is a record for a John Thomas Key regiment number 24861. He was from Nottingham,

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    Quote Originally Posted by almach View Post
    There is a record for a John Thomas Key regiment number 24861. He was from Nottingham,
    Good one almach. Now why didn't that come up for me?! Sometimes I think these sites have it in for me. Persecution complex me ? No way.

    I am going to go and try again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by almach View Post
    There is a record for a John Thomas Key regiment number 24861. He was from Nottingham,
    WWI Service Medal and Award Rolls, 1914-1920
    John Thomas Key
    Military Year- 1914-1920
    Rank - Private
    Medal Awarded - British War Medal and Victory Medal
    Regiment or Corps - Labour Corps
    Regimental Number -24861
    Previous Units - 37267 Pte Linc R

    Medal Rolls Index Cards
    John T Key
    Regiments -Lincolnshire Regiment, Labour Corps
    Regimental number 37267, 24861

    So we can discount this bloke? As I understand it numbers could be repeated in different regiments at this time?

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    Quote Originally Posted by christanel View Post
    Good one almach. Now why didn't that come up for me?! Sometimes I think these sites have it in for me. Persecution complex me ? No way.

    I am going to go and try again.

    Christina
    I didn't find it on Ancestry, Christina, but the other site!

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    So we can discount this bloke? As I understand it numbers could be repeated in different regiments at this time?
    Yep. Coincidental that a chap named Key had the same reg number. So, back to the drawing board.

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    Bingo! Told you these sites have a mind of their own.
    Medal Roll Index card
    William Key
    North Staffordshire (Prince of Wales' Regiment) Machine Gun Corps
    26011, 172078

    These medal Roll Index cards are free to view on ancestry until the end of the year. They are one of the sites which are licensed to put them online. The other is The National Archives and Findmypast. All pay per view.
    I haven't found a service record for William Key as yet but be aware that 60% + of WW1 records were destroyed in WW11 by bombing/fire. These records are also only available on ancestry and findmypast. There is a free version of both in many public libraries so yours may have one of them or both.
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