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29-10-2014, 9:09 AM #11
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29-10-2014, 9:12 AM #12
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29-10-2014, 1:33 PM #13gasserGuestOn his birth and baptism records (same for his siblings), it only lists his mother as Elizabeth.
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29-10-2014, 2:16 PM #14Wilkes_mlGuest
To be honest, if there is only one obvious birth for Enoch, and only a mother Elizabeth is recorded, then I would guess as Enoch being born illegitimately and would disregard any previous "research" as not every researcher is diligent, and many would often pick the "best fit" from the IGI (now family search) as many still do today. What many people don't seem to realise is that the IGI was only ever a partial index, with many parishes and some whole counties missing. Even now, there are still gaps.
Personally, I would order the actual parish on film and go through marraiges, to see if Elizabeth married after the birth of Enoch, and check whether there were any other children born to Elizabeth.
Have you actually seen the original baptism entry for Enoch? If not then it is important to look at the original....there may be a note in the margin stating what condition Elizabeth was i.e. widow or single. Some curates could be very descriptive, but this additional comments don't make it to the indexes!
edited to add that the England, Select Births and Christenings, 1538-1975 database om Ancestry from Family Search, does actually say that the father is recorded as William.
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29-10-2014, 2:32 PM #15Wilkes_mlGuest
The baptism is actually on ancestry. 16th December 1810, born 2nd November 1809 baptised at St. Giles Cripplegate, London son of William Cattle, Taylor? and Elizabeth. Incidentally it is wrongly transcribed and indexed under AILLE!
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29-10-2014, 2:39 PM #16Wilkes_mlGuest
There is also a Henry Cattle born 17th June baptised 5th July 1812 at St. James Clerkenwell
Also a possible sibling: William Torry born 26th May, baptised 21st October 1804 son of James Henry Cattle & Elizabeth at St. Luke Finsbury
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29-10-2014, 4:46 PM #17
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Enochs siblings were Henry (b.1812 d.1883), William George (b.1819 d.1878), John James (b.1814 d.1815), Martha (Mary) Ann (b.1817 d. 1819), Charles Thomas (b.1824) and Christopher James (b. abt 1822) (haven't found the deaths of Charles and Christopher yet).
All children were born in and around the Clerkenwell kind of area. I've found either the baptism or christening images for all of them and they all say William and Elizabeth and I believe they were living at the same address at all times.
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29-10-2014, 5:37 PM #18Wilkes_mlGuest
I misread the first post as saying only Elizabeth was on the baptism record, as meaning only Elizabeth and not William, instead of only Elizabeth without a surname!!
Unfortunately church baptism records did not give maiden names of the mother except in very rare cases, such as non conformist records. The only way to find her maiden name is by finding a suitable marriage for William to an Elizabeth, or finding other records which may name her, such as wills, settlement certificates etc.
William & Elizabeth could have married anywhere and moved to Clerkenwell later, so there is the possibility that they are the couple who married at Sherriff Hutton, Yorkshire in 1798.
p.s. correction to #16 William Torry Cattle was son of William Henry not James Henry!
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29-10-2014, 5:41 PM #19Wilkes_mlGuest
Do you have William & Elizabeth's deaths & Burials which would give a rough estimate of the years they were born?
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29-10-2014, 6:21 PM #20
If one also knows which cemetery they were buried in. I have done a first name search in that certain cemetery on Find A Grave site. Sometimes I luck out and sometimes not.
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