Samuel Hare Colchester

[Sue Mackay]

The tree lists Mary's parents as Robert Robinson LIND and Elizabeth.

In which case you may be back to Scotland
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/X1RL-1JJ

ETA: See London Gazette https://www.london-gazette.co.uk/issu...s/795/page.pdf

Also Roll of Commissioned Officers in the Medical Service of the British Army Read Online (page 101)

[Sue Mackay]

And here is the HARE connection

From Trove Australian newspapers 24 July 1880 https://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/5954015

Deaths:
HARE: On the 20th inst at her residence, off Chapman-street, Hotham-hill, Rosalie Hancorn Ambrose, widow of the late Robert Lind HARE, master mariner, and youngest daughter of the late Robert Robinson LIND MD, of the 42nd Foot Highlanders, aged 72 years.

If there were master mariners in the family that would explain how easily a family member could set sail for the Cape.

[janbooth]

Death notice in the Essex Standard dated 26 November 1841 "on 21st instant aged 25 suddenly Mr Samuel COLCHESTER junior, Grocer, of Harwich"

And could this be connected - from Bury & Norwich Post dated 22 December 1819 "on Wednesday last after a long illness, aged 78, Mr Samuel COLCHESTER, farmer, of Creeeting All Saints"

From the Ipswich Journal dated 12 September 1840 "9th inst at West Creeting, by the Rev E PASKE, Mr Samuel COLCHESTER, of the above place, to Miss Maria Alderson SOUNDY, of Needham Market". Also confirmed by the Bury & Norwich Post

These at least confirm the 1841 census details and the marriage and death records.

Janet

[janbooth]

Edward SOUNDY would appear to have been a Draper & Grocer in Needham Market according to a newspaper article in the Bury & Norwich Post dated 4 December 1833 in which it reported a robbery at his shop.

From Bury & Norwich Post dated 13 September 1837 obituaries "on Thursday last Sarah Hare the only daughter of the late Mr Edward SOUNDY of Needham Market"

From Bury & Norwich Post dated 8 November 1837 obituaries "on 23rd ult Edward Hare the infant son of the late Mr Edward SOUNDY of Needham Market"

Poor Mary Maria! Gives a bit more background information on her life.

Janet

[GilesC]

Did you find out all that you wanted to know? If you have found out more, I would be interested. My notes on Samuel Hare Colchester (Senior) and his wife are as follows:

H1. Samuel Hare COLCHESTER was born on 5 Mar 1841 in Bosmere,[1] in time to be recorded in the 1841 census,[15] and died on 28 Jul 1878 in King William's Town, South Africa.[2] He was born after a shotgun wedding, and his father Samuel Colchester (1816-1841) died when he was aged four[3]. His mother Mary Soundy remarried when he was seven.[1] and he moved with his mother and new step family to New Sleaford Lincolnshire[16]. When aged sixteen he advertised in the Ipswich Journal of May 9 1857 "to drapers. A young man of respectable connections and good reference, wishes to meet with a situation in the above trade. Apply to SC, Waterloo House (68), Needham Market".[10] (The business was a grocers and drapers.)[4] This is the last reference we have to a Colchester living in Needham Market – ending a presence since 1460.[8]
The next record I have found for him was his marriage in South Africa.[14] Some members of his step family Soundy (Josiah Tunmer Soundy) had emigrated there between 1844 and 1851, and were living in Cradock[9], the location of Samuel’s marriage[13], and it seems likely that they initially looked after him. He was insolvent sometime between 1868 and 1872, if we have correctly understood a reference in an index to the South African National Archives.[2] Samuel became a surgeon, and in the 17 years of his married life moved his family about the country a good deal.[13] Where, when or if he qualified to be a surgeon, I have found no reference and it must be regarded as doubtful, but his grandfather, Robert Lind, had been a surgeon.[4] Maybe there isn’t a lot of difference between cutting and sewing a suit, to being a surgeon!
To quote a book by Van As[13]: “In 1877 the Ninth Frontier war broke out. Arising initially from a tribal domestic conflict between the Fingos and the Xhosas, friction developed to the point where the government were obliged to intervene, using Imperial troops, native levies and colonial volunteers, among whom was Samuel Colchester. The unrest later became centred in the Perie Bush, north of King William's Town. Bush warfare was the only method of combat possible in the hilly terrain, with its patches of dense shrub. The war ended after the Xhosa chief Sandile was killed. Samuel Colchester lost his life as a result of this war, dying in King William's Town in 1878.
When Samuel was laid out, weights were placed on his eyelids to keep them closed. Unaccountably, these weights fell off, leaving his widow with the morbid conviction that her husband had been buried alive."[13]
If you want information on his parents or wife, or the sources referred to in these numbers, contact me
Giles Colchester gsc [at] mydsqfreeserve [dot] co [dot] uk

[Sue Mackay]

Halo Giles, and a warm welcome to BG. Hopefully Sidney will see your posting soon and be in touch. In the meantime, now you are here, have a good look round the forum.