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  1. #21
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    This one's a may be

    1891, Tottenham Middlesex. RG12; Piece: 1070; Folio: 13; Page: 20

    John Wade 43, Bone Comb Maker, Islington
    Fanny Wade 36, High ???? Sussex
    Louisa Read 14, niece, Hoxton

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    John Wade married Fanny Read 21 Dec 1872, Hoxton St John.

    I think she's probably Peter's sister, however on the marriage cert her father is named Boyd Read?????????????

    We need to check census returns for a Fanny with father Boyd.

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    28 Aug 1875, Earls Court St Matthias

    Richard Charles Read, 28, bachelor, Accountant, Herbert St New North Road, father: Bagot Offley Read (Gentleman)

    Louisa Eleanor Hagwood or Haywood (unclear), 21, spinster, 33, Kingsford Gardens, father: George (Gilder)

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    9 Feb 1875, Haggerston All Saints. Witnesses William Curtis and Ann Cox

    Henry Hill, full age, Gas Fitter, Liverman??Road, father: Henry (Gas Fitter)
    Mary Louisa Crewe Read, 24, spinster, 41, Martha??? St, father: Bagott Offley Crewe Read (Gentleman)

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    Definitely switching off now! Digest what's been found, and any questions please ask.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rksailing View Post
    He was married to Elizabeth Caroline Mary Ann Davis, I do not know the year. Elizabeth was born in June 1853 in Shoreditch, Middlesex, England and died 01 December 1927 in West Malling, Kent, England.
    I don't see a death registration for Elizabeth in 1927. However, there is one much earlier: the death of a 30 year old Elizabeth Catherine M. A. Read was registered in the Shoreditch district in the last quarter of 1883 (vol. 1c, p.88).

    That would fit nicely with Peter's remarriage in 1885, which Lizzy9 found (post #19). Peter is shown as a florist with father Bagot Read, so there doesn't seem any doubt that he is the same person. The marriage date would fit with the Peter on the 1911 census (Nicolina's post #5), married to Louisa for 26 years.

    Quote Originally Posted by Lizzy9 View Post
    A death..........

    Bagot Offley Crewe Read, Oct - Dec qrt 1862, Steyning Sussex, vol 2b page 153
    His death was announced in 'The Standard', 24 Dec 1862:
    'CREWE-READ - On the 20th inst., at Sompting, near Worthing, Bagot Offley,
    eldest son of the late John Offley Crewe-Read, Esq., D.L., J.P., of Llandinam Hall,
    Montgomeryshire, and Wern, Flintshire, aged 42.'

    He left a will (the 'London Gazette', 10 Feb. 1863, asks any creditors to contact his executors, Offley Malcolm Crewe-Read and George Annesley). You could send off for a copy of the will.

    Googling finds lots about the CREWE-READ family. They had been plain CREWE until John Offley Crewe assumed the surname Read by royal licence 'in compliance with the will of the late Bagot Read of Chester, esq.': see 'Gentleman's Magazine' of 1836 which also has an obituary for John's father, Reverend Offley Crewe, Rector of Astbury, Cheshire, and Muxton, Staffordshire:

    books.google.co.uk/books?id=26Lsr2E-i_sC&pg=PA561&lpg=PA561

    FamilySearch has a baptism for a Begot Offley CREWE at Mucklestone, Staffordshire on 30 September 1820; his parents are shown as John Offley Crewe and Charlotte.

    P.S. well done Lizzy9 on all your late-night sleuthing.

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    'The Times' of 15 September 1848 has of cases in which 'Proclamations of Outlawry' had been made at the Sheriff's Court the previous day. The list included 'Bagot Crew Read, at the suit of Henry Charles Curlewis'.

    I have no idea what a 'Proclamation of Outlawry' was: it sounds very medieval! Will go and investigate . . .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coromandel View Post
    I have no idea what a 'Proclamation of Outlawry' was: it sounds very medieval! Will go and investigate . . .
    Obtaining a writ of outlawry seems to have been a way of recovering debts, allowing the goods of the debtor to be seized and sold. Here is the wording of such a writ from an 1825 'Dictionary of the Practice in Civil Actions in the Courts of King's Bench and Common Pleas':

    books.google.co.uk/books?id=lagDAAAAQAAJ&pg=PA324

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    According to the 'Annals and Antiquities of the Counties and County Families of Wales' (on Google Books), Bagot Offley Crewe-Read died unmarried. A short biography of his brother, Offley Malcolm Crewe-Read, says that he [i.e. Offley Malcolm] 'succeeded to the family estates on the death of his elder brother, Bagot Crewe-Read, in December, 1862':

    https://
    archive.org/stream/montgomeryshirew00will#page/18/mode/2up/search/bagot

    So Bagot may never have got round to marrying Louisa, though she is shown as his wife on the census. That would explain why their children didn't inherit the 'family estates'.

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    England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations), 1858-1966 Record for Offley Read

    15th Feb the will of Offley Malcolm Crewe - Read formerly of Llandinam Hall but late of Plasdinum both in the County of Montgomery Esquire Captain in the Royal Navy who died 2nd Jan 1884 at 2 Barrington House Southsea in the County of Southampton was proved at the Principal Registry Office by Offley John Crewe - Read of 2 Portugal Street Mayfair in the County of Middlesex Esquire the son one of the executors.

    Personal Estate £3,216 8s 11d

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