Beatrice B. Albert Born May 1901

[wickedbeth]

Please help. Trying to locate any family of this woman. Supposedly she was born a heiress to a millery in England. Found her married in 1945 in Pancras district of Middlesex? to a Tronolone. Any help would be greatly appreciated.


beth AT roarlogistics DOT com

[Nankervis]

In the 1911 census there was a Solomon Albert age 38, a cigarette maker and a Russia Resident.
Annie - wife age 35 also a Russia Resident
Minnie age 11 of Shoreditch, London
Beatrice age 9 of Mile End, London
Dinah age 8 of Shoreditch
Cissie age 6 of Mile End
Will age 2 of Mile End

The family were living at 20 Doveton Street, Mile End, London E

With thanks to FMP

[Jan1954]

Hello Beth - welcome to Brit-Gen,

If anyone is able to help Beth with details of any descendents, please do so via the Private Messaging facility as details of possibly living people are not allowed on the forum.

Thank you,

[malcolm99]

There is a marriage in Pancras Registration District in December Quarter 1945: Vol. 1B Page 189

A copy of this marriage certificate would give you quite a lot of information about her, most importantly the name of her father and his occupation which helps to track down earlier generations.

I have sent you a PM

[Pam Downes]

There are no Tronolone births registered in England and Wales between 1945 and 2006.
Beattie died in Jun quarter 1971, Haringey registration district. The only Tronolone death registered in England and Wales between 1945 and 2006.

It would seem that Beatrice/Beattie was a war bride because on one of several passenger lists she is listed as 'dependant of C.P.Tronolone and it gives his ASN (US Army?) number with an address in Buffalo.

The only other reference to Tronolone in the GRO Index is a marriage of a John who also married in 1945, and his wife seems to have been a war bride who also sailed to the US listed as a dependant of her husband, listed with an ASN and an address in Buffalo.

Pam

[malcolm99]

In the 1911 census there was a Solomon Albert age 38, a cigarette maker and a Russia Resident.
Annie - wife age 35 also a Russia Resident
Minnie age 11 of Shoreditch, London
Beatrice age 9 of Mile End, London
Dinah age 8 of Shoreditch
Cissie age 6 of Mile End
Will age 2 of Mile End

Interestingly the DINAH in this list matches the birth of a DORIS ALBERT who was born in Shoreditch in June Q 1903. A Doris was living with Beatrice in 1945 (#1).

[malcolm99]

Just to flesh out the earlier censuses (if they prove to be the right ones):

1911 census

Address: 20 Doveton Street, Mile End Old Town, Stepney, London

Census reference: RG14 PN1625 SN252

Solomon Albert, Head of Family, married, age 38, Cigarette Maker, Nationality – Russian. Born in Russia, Russian Resident
Annie Albert, wife, married, age 35, Born in Russia, Russian Resident: married for 12 years & has had 6 children of whom 1 has died and 5 are still alive

Minnie Albert, daughter, age 11, At school, Born in Shoreditch, London
Beatrice Albert, daughter, age 9, Born in Mile End, London
Dinah Albert, daughter, age 8, Born in Shoreditch, London
Cissie Albert, daughter, age 6, Born in Mile End, London
Will Albert, son, age 2, Born in Mile End, London




1901 census

Address: 48, Mile End Road, Mile End Old Town, Stepney, London

RG13 Piece 325 Folio 7 Page 6

Solomon Albert, Head of Family, married, age 28, Cigarette Maker, employer, Born in Russia, British Subject
Annie Albert, wife, married, age 24, Born in Russia, British Subject
Minnie Albert, daughter, age 1, Born in Whitechapel, London

[malcolm99]

You can now order the marriage certificate for Carmen P Tronolone and Beattie Albert Dec Q 1945.

In your PM you say Carmen died in July 2001 (Buffalo, NY) and Beattie in April 1971. This fits in with Pam’s find in #5 and you can order her death certificate from the GRO.

Details are:

Beatrice Tronolone
District name = Haringey
Apr-May-Jun, 1971
Volume number: 5B Page number: 2019

The registration index actually gives her date of birth as 6th May 1901 but although the year is wrong I suspect this is because the death was registered by someone who didn’t know her real birth date.

[malcolm99]

The registration index actually gives her date of birth as 6th May 1901 but although the year is wrong I suspect this is because the death was registered by someone who didn’t know her real birth date.

Sorry, that's a mistake - I can't imagine why I wrote that: too early in the morning I guess.

Her birth appears to be:

Beattie ALBERT

Birth registered : Shoreditch District, Apr-May-Jun Quarter, 1901. Volume Number: 1C Page Number: 23