Back on 12 July 2010, I started a thread on the Cornwall county wide forum entitled Elizabeth Vedere - married 1872. That thread answered my questions about Elizabeth and the effect of her running away with Dominique before she was 16 years of age had upon her father.
There are some references to Dominique in that thread, but none pin-point a starting point of how to find out what happened to him after ditching Elizabeth, or of his life prior to the unfortunate [for the Lugg family anyway] marriage.
I have tried to find him by googling French ancestry sites, but not understanding the language, I've drawn blanks. This is why I am asking for help from forum members either in France or those more conversant with the language.
All I know is what was on his marriage certificate dated 24 July 1856. He stated he was of full age, a bachelor, an Artist by occupation and that his father was Antoine Vedere. They were married by license.
Colin
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15-08-2012, 7:34 PM #1Colin RowledgeGuest
Dominique Vedere - s. of Antoine born France
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15-08-2012, 7:39 PM #2pottokaGuest
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15-08-2012, 7:47 PM #3Colin RowledgeGuest
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15-08-2012, 8:02 PM #4pottokaGuest
Quel salaud! These Frenchmen, I ask you! (I'm allowed to say that cos I'm hitched to one ) Mind you, he could have been a Belgian, couldn't he - remember Hercule Poirot is always having to correct people who presume he's French.
I digress. Exactly what proof do you have that he's French?
I'm afraid you may well be up against an insurmountable brick wall here. There is no centralised register of BMDs for France. You have to know exactly where someone was born to be able to get a copy of their birth certificate, as each birth was registered at the Town Hall of the city/town/village/hamlet where it took place. Now you can get them from the Archives Départementales (like the County Record Offices in England), but if you don't know where to look, you're stuck.
Sorry.
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15-08-2012, 8:19 PM #5Colin RowledgeGuest
No real proof- just the 'accents' on the marriage certificate. Of course, he could be Belgian or even French Canadian.
Dead end - looks like.
Thanks anyway - it was worth a try. His name and a tiny bit about him is now on the forums and elsewhere - may be someone, somewhere recognizes him - I can only hope.
Colin
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15-08-2012, 8:39 PM #6pottokaGuest
It's a bummer, Colin.
The thing is that French records, say a birth record, will usually give you the full names, ages, occupations and birth places, and sometimes even the marriage date and/or place of the parents, so it's fairly easy to trace a line upwards. It's when you get a British family working in France for a few years, while they're having kids, or a French person who gives a place of birth on a Census which turns out to be - probably - the nearest big town to Back-End-in-the-Sticks where he was actually born that things go wrong.
I can't find the toerag either on the 1851 or the 1861 Census.
You're probably better off without him, even if it leaves you with a loose end; he sounds like a right nasty piece of work.
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16-08-2012, 6:17 PM #7Colin RowledgeGuest
Still searching - a search today on google has found a French artist and photo. What dosen't help is that this person is alive, is French and unfortunately [for me] female.
Definitely not the person I am looking for.
Colin
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17-08-2012, 5:18 PM #8Colin RowledgeGuest
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18-08-2012, 4:56 PM #9
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The Bearnais Singers (from the French Pyrenees) were touring here 1852 - 1857, and gave their farewell concert in Oct 1857 before returning to France. The group included a "D. Vedere, Baritone, of the Toulouse Conservatory".
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21-08-2012, 6:41 AM #10pottokaGuest
Oh, Colin!
I don't know what to say to you except surely not. Oh, I don't know, there were white slavers and all sorts, but I don't think he'd have married her, would he?
Sometimes I think that we have too much information too easily these days as well as media who squeeze blood from stones, and so we always think of the worst possible scenarios.
Now that is interesting, as I looked up the surname on a French genealogical site, and a lot came from up North but there was another high concentration in the Pyrénées-Atlantiques (once the Basses Pyrénées before they got PC about it - before PC existed!) and the Hautes Pyrénées. The Béarn is in th P.A.
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