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    Ron B
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    Hello from Canada,
    I'm completely new at this and hoping to get some help tracing my ancestors. My grandfather, Nelson Banister emigrated to Canada in the early 1900`s. He came from Rye, Sussex as did my grandmother Dorothy Stoneham. My grandfather had a brother named Montague Banister. Any help will be greatly appreciated.
    Thank-you.
    Ron B. in Canada

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    Jan1954
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    Hi Ron,

    If you have not done so already, you need to get your hands on a copy of Nelson's birth certificate as that will tell you who his parents were and thus make life easier in tracing the line back. Reference:
    March quarter 1890, Rye registration district, volume 2b, page 4, Nelson BANISTER

    If you are not sure how to order this, just shout and we will explain.

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    Hello Ron,

    Nelson Banister is living with his mother Caroline at 7 Seymour Place, Rye at the time of the 1911 Census. He was a 21 year old unmarried boot repairer. Census Reference: RG14 PN4695 SN94

    This census tells us that Caroline was a widow, and had 18 children of whom only 7 were still living.

    Do you have access to the British Census images?

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    In the 1901 Census
    Census Ref: RG13 Piece 859 fol. 65 p. 12 & RG13 Piece 859 fol. 66 p. 13

    Address: 7 Seymour Place, Rye

    Russell H BANISTER, Head, Married, age 61, Horse & Cattle Doctor, born Peasmarsh, Sussex
    Caroline BANISTER, Wife Married, age 56, born Wittersham, Kent
    Amos BANISTER, Son, Single, age 21, Shoe Maker born Rye, Sussex
    Montague G BANISTER, Son, Single, age 15, Grocers Assistant, born Rye, Sussex
    Nelson BANISTER, Son, age 11, born Rye, Sussex

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    malcolm99
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    In the 1891 Census they are living at 2, Richmond Villas, Rye (close to Seymour Street).

    Russell is described as a Veterinary Surgeon and in addition to Amos, Montague and Nelson there are 2 other children:

    Census Ref:
    RG12 piece 756 fol. 73 p. 12

    Ernest Banister, son, age 13, Errand Boy, born Rye
    Thomas H Banister, son, age 8, scholar, born Rye

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    Ron B
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    Dear Daft Bat,
    No, I have no idea how to order his birth certificate, but I would very much like to learn. Thank you so much for your interest and your offer of help.
    Ron B
    Quote Originally Posted by Jan1954 View Post
    Hi Ron,

    If you have not done so already, you need to get your hands on a copy of Nelson's birth certificate as that will tell you who his parents were and thus make life easier in tracing the line back. Reference:
    March quarter 1890, Rye registration district, volume 2b, page 4, Nelson BANISTER

    If you are not sure how to order this, just shout and we will explain.

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    Jan1954
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ron B View Post
    Dear Daft Bat,
    No, I have no idea how to order his birth certificate, but I would very much like to learn. Thank you so much for your interest and your offer of help.
    Ron B
    Hi Ron,

    Copies of birth, marriage and death certificates where the events have been registered in England and Wales can be ordered from the General Register Office (aka the GRO). Click here and follow the links. Each certificate will cost you £9.25 and there is a facility to order from overseas using your credit or debit card.

    Reference numbers are not necessarily required but they can help pinpoint an entry. For Nelson, the references for his birth certificate are: March quarter 1890, Rye registration district, volume 2b, page 4. When asked if you have the reference, make sure that the "yes" box is checked.

    Please be aware that if you order a certificate via any commercial organisation, the cost will be higher - in some cases considerably! Therefore, it is better to order them straight from the GRO.

    To see the sort of information that you are likely to find on a certificate, have a read of this guide and be aware that registration started in England and Wales on 1st July 1837 and so you will not find a birth certificate prior to this date. You would be in the realms of baptisms - which are a different kettle of fish entirely!

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    The complete census for 1891 for the family is:

    Address: 2, Richmond Villas, Rye
    Census Reference: RG12 Piece 756 fol. 73 p. 12

    Russell H Banister, Head, Married, age 51, Veterinary Surgeon, born Peasmarsh, Sussex
    Caroline Banister, Wife, Married, age 45, born Wittersham, Kent
    Ernest Banister, son, age 13, Errand Boy, born Rye, Sussex
    Amos Banister, son, age 12, Scholar, born Rye, Sussex
    Thomas H Banister, son, age 8, Scholar, born Rye, Sussex
    Montagu G Banister, son, age 5, Scholar, born Rye, Sussex
    Nelson Banister, son, age 1, Scholar, born Rye, Sussex


    Just to complete Nelson’s immediate family, they are listed in the 1881 Census as follows:

    Address: 7 Seymour [or Seymore] Place, Rye
    Census Reference: RG11 Piece 1017 fol. 94 p. 16

    Russell H BANNISTER, Head, married,age 42, Veterinary Surgeon, born Peasmarsh, Sussex
    Caroline BANNISTER, wife, married, age 34, born Tenterden, Kent
    Mary Jane BANNISTER, daughter, age 12, Scholar, born Rye, Sussex
    David Russell BANNISTER, son, age 10, Scholar, Rye, Sussex
    Agnes BANNISTER, daughter, age 9, Scholar, born Rye, Sussex
    Ernest BANNISTER, son, age 3, born Rye, Sussex
    Amos BANNISTER, son, age 1, born Rye, Sussex


    The children in these censuses must be the 7 mentioned as still living in the 1911 Census. It should be possible to find out quite a bit more about the family.

    As I mentioned before, do you have access to the images of the British Census e.g. via Ancestry or findmypast?

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    Quote Originally Posted by malcolm99 View Post
    This census tells us that Caroline was a widow, and had 18 children of whom only 7 were still living.
    WOW, that's a lot of children.

    Struggling to find 18. Have found 13 baptisms so far (on Family Search)...

    1. Nelson Bannister baptised on 12 Apr 1890 at Rye, Sussex. Birth date 1890. Parents Russell Hilder Bannister and Caroline

      Also baptised at the parish church of Rye...

    2. David Russel bap. 07 Aug 1870. Birth date 17 Jul 1870
    3. Agnes bap 05 Nov 1871. Birth date 11 Sep 1871
    4. Caroline bap. 26 Oct 1873. Birth date 23 Jul 1873
    5. Frederick Charles bap. 22 Mar 1875
    6. Kate bap. 18 Aug 1876. Birth date 02 May 1876
    7. Ernest bap. 29 Mar 1878. Birth date 14 Dec 1877
    8. Amos bap. 05 Oct 1879. Birth date 03 Aug 1879
    9. Arthur bap. 05 Dec 1880. Birth date 16 Aug 1880
    10. Thomas Hilder bap. 04 Jun 1882. Birth date 13 Mar 1882
    11. Albert bap. 05 Aug 1883. Birth date 10 Jul 1883
    12. Alfred bap.07 Sep 1884. Birth date 06 Aug 1884
    13. Montagu Gordon bap. 07 Feb 1886. Birth date 01 Dec 1885


    See https://familysearch.org/search

    Can't find Mary Jane's baptism and one would have thought that hers would be there. From the census she was born abt. 1869 and it appears from Family Search that the parents married a few years before this date, in 1866.

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    Quote Originally Posted by olliecat View Post
    WOW, that's a lot of children.
    The remarkably fecund Caroline Velvick was born in Tenterden Registration District in March Quarter 1847 and married Russell H Banister in Rye RD in June Quarter 1866.

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