Can't find birth reg

[loobylou]

I have a baptism cert for Augusta Norah Agrilla French on 17th January 1862 at St Stephens Westminster but I can't find her on Freebmd. Can anyone help please?
Thank You

[malcolm99]

I can’t see a birth as yet but there is this which may give some clues:

Augusta Norah A French married Herbert Peter Spicer in Warwick RD, March Q 1891.

[Pam Downes]

Not all births prior to 1874 were registered.
What I find intriguing is that Augusta doesn't show up on either the 1871 or 1881 census.
If the 1891 marriage Malcolm found is correct then in 1891 her age is 27, born Westminster, and in 1911 is consistent (if not entirely truthful!) with her now being aged 47, born Westminster.
What were her parent's names, and her father's occupation?
Pam

[malcolm99]

I’ve been looking at the 1871 Census Piece 121 fol.97 p.48 where there is a Norah A.G. French born about 1862 in Westminster.

It’s a large family but the youngest son is Victor E.G. aged 2, born Westminster. There is a marriage in Aston, Warwickshire June Q 1890 for a Victor Ernest T French – which makes a neat connection with Augusta having been married in Warwickshire in 1891.

Needs a lot more work though & I haven’t had any luck as yet making a Warwickshire connection with others in the family.
Possibly a complete red herring but it has some possibilities.

(Record in care of TNA: Crown copyright)

[Pam Downes]

Humph, no wonder I couldn't find her in 1871. Ancestry's indexing says Franch, birthplace has been abbreviated by the enumerator to Westr, etc, etc.
Good find, Malcolm, and it must be the same person as the address in 1871, Vincent Square, is given as part of Augusta Spicer's birthplace in 1911.
RG14 PN21394 SN155
(Record in care of TNA, Crown coyright.)

Pam

[Pam Downes]

Random info.
1911 census Patrick Claude French has two sons Oscar Claude and Albert Victor both born in Warwickshire.
There's also a daughter Norah (Not born Warwickshire.)
RG14 PN2393 SN125

Pam

[Pam Downes]

This should be the proof as hopefully the parents' names and father's occupation tie in with the baptism certificate.
1861
Living in Vincent Square.
RG9/49 folio 123 page 21
William French, 34, outfitter, Cheltenham, Glos
Elizabeth, 29, Doncaster, Yorks
Florence. 11, Hammersmith
William, 9, London
Jane, 2, London

Father's occupation is similar to that of several of the children when they get older.

(Record in care of TNA, Crown coyright, and also applies to information in post #6.)

Pam

[Pam Downes]

Finally found the Warwickshire link.

1891
RG12/2473 folio 125 page 34
Living in civil parish of Milverton
William French, 64, outfitter, Cheltenham
Elizabeth, wife, 59, Doncaster
Arthur, son, 19, Fulham

(Record in care of TNA, & Crown copyright)

Pam

[malcolm99]

That's excellent - except when I saw "outfitter from Cheltenham" bells started ringing and lo & behold...https://www.british-genealogy.com/for...william+french

[Pam Downes]

That's excellent - except when I saw "outfitter from Cheltenham" bells started ringing and lo & behold...https://www.british-genealogy.com/for...william+french

Wish those bells had rung a bit louder and quicker.
Some good has come of though as FMP have William and Elizabeth indexed as Kemp in 1891 so I will advise them of their slight error.

Pam