I have been told I have gypsy heritage for as long as I can remember. My grandfather was one of 7 children and didn't live in a house until he was 17. I always assumed the link was on my great-grandfathers side but it turns out he was from a well-to-do Scottish family. His wife, my grandfathers mother, on the other hand could be the 'missing link'. All I know about her is her name, estimated year of birth and that she was born in Cork. After that I hit a brick wall. I can't seem to find any Plumleys in the English OR Irish records.
How do I go about confirming/disproving that they were travellers?
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12-10-2011, 12:46 PM #1weesie3Guest
Plumley - possible Irish Travellers?
Last edited by weesie3; 12-10-2011 at 12:47 PM. Reason: more info
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12-10-2011, 2:50 PM #2malcolm99Guest
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12-10-2011, 3:17 PM #3weesie3Guest
Her name was Emily Plumley, born around 1911 in Cork. I got the info from my mums genesreunited tree. I have no idea how accurate it is. I seem to be spending a fortune on that site but not getting very far!
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12-10-2011, 3:38 PM #4malcolm99Guest
Thanks Weesie
From a tree on Ancestry I see there’s an Emily Plumley supposedly born 23 April 1911 in Cork. Married James Stafford Little in Bristol RD in September Quarter 1935. Emily died in Bristol January 1986 aged 74. [This seems to be wrong and she probably died in January 1996 aged 84].
I see that James Stafford Little appears to have been born in Bristol Registration District on 17 May 1903 and died in Bristol Dec Q 1969.
Apart from Emily’s place of birth, all these dates are confirmed by GRO records.
Does this match up with your mum’s tree?
PS Don't post any details about their children as they still seem to be living.Last edited by malcolm99; 12-10-2011 at 3:44 PM. Reason: revised James Stafford Little & added PS
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12-10-2011, 3:59 PM #5malcolm99Guest
The Cork connection may well be right but I can't help noticing that there are a fair number of Plumley families in the North Somerset / Gloucestershire area in the 1911 census & so we shouldn't totally ignore the fact that Emily may have been born locally.
Do you have a copy of Emily's marriage certificate as this would give the name of her father?
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12-10-2011, 4:20 PM #6malcolm99Guest
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12-10-2011, 6:55 PM #7
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Hello weesie 3
I have no idea how accurate it is
You need to start with your grandparents marriage certificate, which should give you the age of the parties and their respective fathers + witnesses who may be family members
As there is quite a bit on line about Romany folk try googling the surname...sometimes what is repeated as family lore isn't!
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13-10-2011, 9:16 AM #8weesie3Guest
Thank you so much. Yes, she did die in 96, not 86. I was born in 85 and remember writing a sympathy card to my granddad. Four of their seven children are still alive, my granddad passed away last April, just months short of his 70th birthday.
I've managed to get in touch with my aunt who is going to speak to one of my granddads cousins today. She used to live with Emily.
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13-10-2011, 9:19 AM #9weesie3Guest
[QUOTE=malcolm99;494138]Thanks Weesie
From a tree on Ancestry I see there’s an Emily Plumley supposedly born 23 April 1911 in Cork. Married James Stafford Little in Bristol RD in September Quarter 1935. Emily died in Bristol January 1986 aged 74. [This seems to be wrong and she probably died in January 1996 aged 84].
That's her! James Stafford is a family name, given to my great-grandfather, granddad and someone else
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13-10-2011, 7:55 PM #10
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Hello
James Stafford LITTLE
b 17/025/1903
baptised 3/01/1912 Fishponds s/o Henry & Kate LITTLE
died Dec 1969 Bristol
married q3 1935 Bristol
Emily PLUMLEY
there is a birth that fits q2 1911 Bristol 6A 157
died Jan 1996 aged 84
the 1911 census was taken oon 2 April 1911 ? days before Emily was born!
Unless you can identify her family on the 1911 census, irish travellers / hawekers romany et. you will need to obtain a copy of the 1935 marriage certificate.
GRO.gov.uk
I looked at the 1911 irish, there are no entries listed for PLUMLEY!Last edited by geneius; 13-10-2011 at 7:56 PM. Reason: add'l info
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