john langan

[terrysfamily]

If he was John T(homas) then this looks like him in 1861 except his place of birth is given as Oldham.
RG09/3007/93 Page 12
Henshaw Street, Oldham
Michael LANGAN b. abt. 1832 in Ireland occ: Outdoor labourer
Ann LANGAN b. abt. 1835 in Ireland occ: Cotton Factory Operative
John Tho. LANGAN b. abt. 1856 in Oldham
James LANGAN b. abt. 1857 in Oldham
Bridget LANGAN b. abt. 1860 (5 months) in Oldham

a possible marriage:
Sep 1853
LANGAN Michael Oldham 8d 983

on same page:
LYNCH Ann Oldham 8d 983

It is indeed

Lancashire Marriage indexes for the years: 1853
Surname LANGAN
Forename(s) Michael
Surname LYNCH
Forename(s) Ann
Church / Register Office Oldham Register Office or Registrar Attended
Registers At Oldham

The children below have the Mother's Maiden Name as LYNCH

Births Jun 1857 Langan James Oldham 8d 474
Births Jun 1859 LANGAN Mary Ann Oldham 8d 528
Births Dec 1860 LANGAN Bridget Oldham 8d 484
Births Jun 1863 LANGAN Michael Oldham 8d 537

And all born at or registered at Oldham Below Town Registers At Oldham

[RonOne]

a possible marriage:
Sep 1853
LANGAN Michael Oldham 8d 983

on same page:
LYNCH Ann Oldham 8d 983

Same marriage from Lancashire BMD:
Michael LANGAN married Ann LYNCH in 1853 - Oldham Register Office or Registrar Attended
(which means it was either a Register Office or non conformist, Catholic etc... marriage)

[terrysfamily]

Young Michael Died.

Births Jun 1863 LANGAN Michael Oldham 8d 537
Deaths Mar 1864 LANGAN Michael Oldham 8d 426

Lancashire Death indexes for the years: 1864

Surname LANGAN
Forename(s) Michael
Age 0
Sub-District Oldham Below Town
Registers At Oldham

[Mona]

This chap in Oldham cannot be the John LANGAN mentioned in post #1. The one we are looking for married Margaret COSGROVE in 1880 in Liverpool at Our Lady & St. Nicholas & St. Anne (from Lancashirebmd). In 1891 and 1901 census he states his birthplace as Birkenhead. I cannot find them in 1881 census.
The John Thomas LANGAN from Oldham is still single in 1881, still in Oldham, a boarder in Wheeler household.
I think, Lango, you have to get the marriage certificate of John and Margaret to find out who his father was.

[RonOne]

I have found the family in 1871 at Wood Street, St Mary, Oldham Below, (RG10/4095/14 Page 22) by which time Ann had died.

Probable death registration for Ann Langan:

Lancashire BMD (which gives ages at death prior to 1866)
Deaths 1864
Ann LANGAN
Aged 28
Sub-district: Oldham Below Town
Registers at: Oldham
Ref: OBT/46/5

Same death registration from FreeBMD:
Deaths Mar 1864
LANGAN Ann - Oldham 8d 439

[RonOne]

Young Michael Died.

Births Jun 1863 LANGAN Michael Oldham 8d 537
Deaths Mar 1864 LANGAN Michael Oldham 8d 426

Michael Langan, aged 9 months was buried 04/02/1864 at Greenacres Cemetery - Section C5 - Grave 123

[Kerrywood]

Lango, you've had a lot of helpful and enthusiastic replies here.

But I do wonder if the Oldham family is the correct one? Later censuses show John LANGAN born in Birkenhead, which is a heck of a way from Oldham.

First, you need the marriage of John and Margaret, to check the name of John's father.

From Liverpool parish registers ...

19 July 1880, St Nicholas, Liverpool
John Langan 21 Bachelor Labourer Bridgewater Street. Father - Thomas Langan, Labourer
Margaret Cosgrove 21 Spinster Bridgewater Street. Father - Thomas Cosgrove, Labourer
After banns
Witnesses - Joseph Farrell, Catherine Thompson
(all parties made their mark)

Here is a possible 1861 census:

1861 census
RG9/2642 folio 104 page 42
6 Eldon Place, Birkenhead
Thomas Langen Head Mar 32 D(oc)k Lab(oure)r born Ireland
Mary Langen Wife Mar 30 born Ireland
Mary Langen Daur Unm 10 Scholar born Cheshire Birkenhead
Thomas Langen Son 8 Scholar born Cheshire Birkenhead
John Langen Son 2 born Cheshire Birkenhead

(census record held by TNA, Crown copyright)

[LANGO]

Dear Mona,sincere thanks.What you say makes a lot of sense.I have never heard any members of the family mention Oldham.How can I get hold of the marriage certificate?

[terrysfamily]

This chap in Oldham cannot be the John LANGAN mentioned in post #1. The one we are looking for married Margaret COSGROVE in 1880 in Liverpool at Our Lady & St. Nicholas & St. Anne (from Lancashirebmd). In 1891 and 1901 census he states his birthplace as Birkenhead. I cannot find them in 1881 census.
The John Thomas LANGAN from Oldham is still single in 1881, still in Oldham, a boarder in Wheeler household.
I think, Lango, you have to get the marriage certificate of John and Margaret to find out who his father was.

[Nicolina]

this John LANGAN gives an estimated date of birth of 1861 but I cannot find a suitable Cheshire birth on either Cheshire BMDs or FreeBMDs, so something is amiss.

This chap in Oldham cannot be the John LANGAN mentioned in post #1. The one we are looking for married Margaret COSGROVE in 1880 in Liverpool at Our Lady & St. Nicholas & St. Anne (from Lancashirebmd). In 1891 and 1901 census he states his birthplace as Birkenhead. I cannot find them in 1881 census.
The John Thomas LANGAN from Oldham is still single in 1881, still in Oldham, a boarder in Wheeler household.
I think, Lango, you have to get the marriage certificate of John and Margaret to find out who his father was.