Hello, does anyone know how I can find out about a relative born 1820 in North Shields, I have exhausted the usual lines everyone tries but nothing, I would love to find his parents and where he actually lived,
thanks again from John
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Thread: Robert Bertram James
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12-07-2011, 9:24 AM #1JohnboybusterGuest
Robert Bertram James
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12-07-2011, 9:38 AM #2Richard1955Guest
Hi John
You have exhausted the usual lines. So have you traced Robert through the census.
Perhaps you can give us a census reference so that we can get on track.
Do you have a marriage ?
Children?
Siblings?
Occupation?
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12-07-2011, 9:51 AM #3
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Hello John and welcome to the forum.
Just to start off, can you confirm that your Robert Bertram James is in the 1851 census living in Lancashire with his wife Betsey Barker and his in-laws. In the 1851 census the name is recorded as Robert Betram James, born abt 1820 in North Shields.
1851: HO107; Piece: 2195; Folio: 126; Page: 48 (crown copyright, care of the TNA)
1841: HO107; Piece 517; Book: 9; Folio: 28; Page: 19 (crown copyright, care of the TNA)
Is this his marriage?
groom's name: Robert James
bride's name: Betsy Barker
marriage date: 23 Sep 1841
marriage place: Prescot, Lancashire, England
groom's father's name: John James
bride's father's name: Edward Barker
(FamilySearch)
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12-07-2011, 10:23 AM #4Richard1955Guest
I can add 1861: RG09: Piece:2751: Folio:58: Page:45
Where Betsey is a widow so Robert b1820 died between 1856 and the 1861 census.Last edited by Richard1955; 12-07-2011 at 10:24 AM. Reason: Crown copyright TNA
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13-07-2011, 12:12 AM #5
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Tree on Anc has father John James mother Ann Moore. Noted as unconfirmed
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13-07-2011, 12:27 AM #6
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13-07-2011, 12:28 AM #7
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13-07-2011, 6:26 AM #8JohnboybusterGuest
Yes mate , thank you very much, I know Robert was living with Betsey and her parents for a period but then he seems to dissappear.
in the next census. Is it possible to pin point his actual birth place, town or street ? Can his birth parents be confirmed, I tried to make an educated guess as to his mother, Where abouts did they marry (Live) both there bmd, what did dad do for a living. How can I find out where Robert Bertram James was buried. Im sorry so many questions.
Thanks again.
John
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13-07-2011, 6:32 AM #9JohnboybusterGuest
Yes that is correct that is what I have, I have there children, even his son becoming head of the household Benjamin, it is difficult for me to get the right mum & dad and even there BMD.
I would like to know exactly what his dads occupation was.
Thanks again
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13-07-2011, 6:59 AM #10Richard1955Guest
Hi John
Olliecat on post 4 has found what looks like the correct marriage.
Father is Edward and if you can order the marriage certificate Sep qtr. 1841 ref: Prescot 20 643
from: https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/
it should give you the following info:
Father's occupation.
Groom's age to find his birth on parish records on familysearch.org
Note: Age shown on 1841 census will not be accurate.
I can add 1861: RG09: Piece:2751: Folio:58: Page:45
Where Betsey is a widow so Robert b1820 died between 1856 and the 1861 census.Last edited by Richard1955; 13-07-2011 at 7:04 AM. Reason: Crown copyright TNA
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