I am looking for info about John Pugh's (b. 1851 Elmley Castle, Worcester) parents John Pugh born about 1810 in Herefordshire and Sarah Wilmot born about 1820 in Worcestershire. I think they may have moved around some (he was listed in census records as a builder). Would like to know birth, death and burial if anyone could help. Children other than John b.1851 include George Henry, Isabella, Florence, Clara and Wilmot. Thanks so much for any help.
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Thread: John Pugh b. 1851 Elmley Castle
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01-06-2011, 8:15 PM #1agennieGuest
John Pugh b. 1851 Elmley Castle
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01-06-2011, 9:47 PM #2
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I really must stop clicking off befre submitting posts!!!
Family search has this information.:
A John Pugh 30 b Elmley Castle is listed in 1851 as a Policeman married to Emily 27 b.St.Peters Worcester. Blakefield rd.
Children: Ernest John, 7...Hy.Herbert,6..CLara Annie,2..& Walter ,1 yr.
RG11 Piece / Folio 2913 / 66 page28
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A John Pugh married an Emily Shuck 26 Jan. 1873 at Whittington ,Worcester. M046212
A John Pugh as you know was christened at Elmley Castle 1 July 1851. Pts John & Sarah. C048583
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01-06-2011, 9:56 PM #3agennieGuest
Thank you so much! I didn't have a marriage date or christened date.
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01-06-2011, 10:19 PM #4
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anjennie, I do realise you asked for his PARENTs details but having this info infront often helps to find other things too.
Have you found Sarahs birth?
Johns is proving tricky with Madley as b.place. It may have been one of surrounding spots.
I found a marriage for him in Tibberton but wrong wife.Happy Families
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02-06-2011, 12:23 AM #5agennieGuest
I am not sure if that John Pugh you found in 1851 is the John I am looking for, however as you will notice in the notes below I found his wife in 1851 but he is not listed with her. This is what I have found.
I found 1851 Elmley Castle Sarah Pugh age 31 born Flyford Flavel married to a builder and living with her parents Charles Wimot in the 1851 Elmley Castle with children George H W, John. Her husband is not listed in the household, I do not know where John Pugh was.
I found 1861 Claines, Worcester John Pugh age 45 born Hereford, Madley, builder and survey with Sarah 32 b. Worcester, Tibberton, children George H W, John, Isabella, Clara A, Wilmot C
I found 1871 Birmingham Sarah Pugh age 47 with children George, John, Clara A
Wilmott C. but husband John is not listed
I found 1881 Birmingham John Pugh age 73 builder, born Madley, Sarah age 62 children Flory, Wilmot C, Alfred W (grandson)
I found 1891 Birmingham John Pugh age 83 retired builder born Madeley, Sarah age 72 child Wilmot C
The ages varies for the John and Sarah in the census records but the birth places, occupation and children seem to stay the same so I believe all these entries are for the same family and the family I am looking for.
My belief:
John Pugh born sometime between 1808 and 1816 Herefordshire, Madley, England, his occupation was a builder, died after 1891 maybe Birmingham, Warwickshire
His wife was Sarah Wilmot born sometime between 1819 and 1829 Worcestershire, Tibberton, died after 1891 maybe Birmingham, Warwickshire
Children;
1. George Henry W. b. abt 1849 Elmley Castle
2. John b. 1851 died 1923 Randolph County, North Carolina USA married to Emily Shuck b 1853 d. between 1910-1920 Allegheny County, Pennsylvania, USA. Emily and their children immigrated 1890. I think John immigrated first.
3. Isabella b. about 1854 married Thomas Shuck (Emily’s brother)
4. Florence Emily b about 1850 married I believe William Lenney
5. Clara Annie b about 1858
6. Wilmot Charles b. about 1861 married a Emily
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02-06-2011, 12:52 AM #6
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02-06-2011, 1:14 AM #7
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Looks like John is lodging in 1871.
1871: RG10 Piece: 2706 Folio: 27 Page: 6 (crown copyright, care of the TNA)
Yayor, Yaso, Herefordshire
WILLIAMS, William, head, 50, cooper, London
WILLIAMS, Elizabeth, wife, 48, c. wife, Litton Herefordshire
PUGH, John, lodger, 56, married, builder, Madley Herefordshire
BROWN, James, lodger, 34, ag labourer, Herefordshire
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02-06-2011, 1:21 AM #8
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There is a christening for a John Pugh in Madley, but he is so variable with his age in the census that it's hard to tell.
name: John Pugh
gender: Male
baptism/christening date: 14 Feb 1808
baptism/christening place: Madley, Hereford, England
father's name: John Pugh
mother's name: Sarah
(from family search)
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02-06-2011, 1:28 AM #9
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This could be John in the 1851 census.
1851: HO107 Piece: 1980 Folio: 346 Page: 5 (crown copyright, care of the TNA)
Lodge, Norton with Brockhampton, Herefordshire
WEBB, Mary, head, widow, 63, lodge keeper, Aberly Worcestershire
PUGH, John, lodger, married, 43, clerk to builder, Madly Herefordshire
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02-06-2011, 11:41 AM #10agennieGuest
This maybe him 3 census list him born in 1808, another 1815, and yet another 1816. Thanks for locating this info for me!
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