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    Looking for a Joseph Hayward born 1864 in the Gloucestershire, England area. He married _________? and they had at least one son named Joseph Hayward born 1895 in Birmingham, England and died in 1977. He married Florence Beatrice May French born 1898. Joseph and Florence had a child named John Dennis Hayward born 1925 died 1986. Trying to track more information on the Joseph b 1864 and his wife and other children/siblings...any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!

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    Hi there,

    I don't have access to the 1901 census, but noticed on an index a Joseph HAYWARD, living in Birmingham and b 1864 Alderton, Gloucestershire. Is this your Joseph?

    IGI Family Search has this baptism at Alderton, Glos:

    Joseph HAYWARD 28 Dec 1862, mother Mary HAYWARD [Batch C02534-4]

    Checking on the Batch Number, this is the only Joseph HAYWARD listed, there are no other baptisms recorded for Mary, but several for William and Hannah HAYWARD, the only others in the parish with the HAYWARD name at that time.

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    Also on IGI there is this marriage:

    Joseph HAYWARD m Emma HEALEY St Peter and St Paul, Aston, Warwickshire [Batch M00711]
    The entry notes that the groom is single, 23 (b 1862), and the bride is single and 19 (b 1866) The grooms father's name is William HAYWARD, the brides father is Henry HEALEY.

    My GUESS is that this is the Joseph baptised at Alderton, with a single mother, Mary. I think its likely that William and Hannh were Mary's parents, and brought Joseph up.

    I'll be interested to see if the Joseph in Birmingham in 1901 has a son Joseph around 5 or 6, and a wife named Emma anyway!

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    You got the right one Birdlip.
    This family are in Erdington Warwickshire in 1911.
    Reference:
    RG14PN18327 RG78PN1103 RD385 SD5 ED8 SN24
    and Birmingham in 1901 RG13 28/2849/57/27
    Yes they have a son Joseph b1895 A dairyman's assistant

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alby65 View Post
    they had at least one son named Joseph Hayward born 1895 in Birmingham,
    Hi Alby65 - welcome to Brit-Gen.

    The safest way to establish the mother of Joseph (1895) would be to obtain a copy of his birth certificate. Did young Joseph have a middle name, to your knowledge? If not, then this is probably his birth registration:
    December quarter 1895, Birmingham district, Joseph HAYWARD, volume 6d, page 171.

    However, there are also two other births registered in Birmingham that may be considered:
    December quarter 1894, Joseph Thomas HAYWARD, volume 6d, page 30
    June quarter 1895, Joseph William HAYWARD, volume 6d, page 9

    Certificates can be ordered from the GRO and, if you do not give them a reference but ask that the father's name is Joseph, they will check that they are sending the correct one to you and will search for a year in either direction.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Richard1955 View Post
    You got the right one Birdlip.
    This family are in Erdington Warwickshire in 1911.
    Reference:
    RG14PN18327 RG78PN1103 RD385 SD5 ED8 SN24
    and Birmingham in 1901 RG13 28/2849/57/27
    Yes they have a son Joseph b1895 A dairyman's assistant

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    Aha..good. Thanks Richard,

    I must admit I didn't check freecen, not sure if they've covered B'ham in 1901 yet. familysearch only has an index for 1901, not the full household etc ....unfortunately.

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    FYI 1901
    HAYWARD, Joseph Head Married M 37 1864 Platelayer Railway. Alderton. Gloucestershire
    HAYWARD, Emily Wife Married F 33 1868 Handsworth. Staffordshire
    HAYWARD, Henry Son Single M 16 1885 Birmingham
    HAYWARD, Louisa Daughter F 8 1893 Birmingham
    HAYWARD, Joseph Son M 6 1895 Birmingham
    HAYWARD, William Son M 4 1897 Birmingham
    HAYWARD, Walter Son M 1 1900 Birmingham
    SMITH, Walter Visitor Married M 37 1864 Navvy General. N K Oxfordshire
    SMITH, Laura Visitor Married F 33 1868 Alderton. Gloucestershire

    There is a possibilty that the two visitors are married and Laura a sister of Joseph.
    I'm only 4 miles from Alderton if you want anything.
    Last edited by Richard1955; 25-05-2011 at 1:54 PM. Reason: Copyright TNA

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    I'm sure you have the right marriage there in Aston Birdlip.
    1881 census Joseph b1864 is a servant in Inkborrow. Worcs
    RG11 3108/64/14
    Can't find him as yet on 1871 to see his father's name

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    This is great everyone..I do appreciate it! I'll go through all the notes and see what it means. On his son's marriage certificate (Joseph Hayward b 1895) it says the dad Joseph B. 1864 is a labourer and lived at 28 Marsh Lane, Erdington. Than on Joseph 1895 son's birth certificate it says the address is 51 James Street, Aston and he was a Tram car Conductor. No middle names listed for either.

    I think the best bet is to get Joseph Hayward b. 1895 birth cetificate which would list the mom and dad?!?! Should I just order it or do they keep this information somewhere I can get to? Any suggestions?

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    You will need to order the birth certificate and I personally would get the marriage certificate as well as this usually contains
    useful information.

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