In 1881 Mary is not there and Edward has only Ann C 1857, and Clara J 1860, with him.
RG11/772,F.80, P.34 (TNA Copyright)
A few lines above at another farm is Ernest married to Julia and their children.
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Thread: Hilder Family
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02-04-2011, 5:16 PM #11MutleyGuest
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02-04-2011, 5:18 PM #12MutleyGuest
I think we must make a good team, the pussy cat, the old dawg and the Nerd!!!
I never said that.....
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02-04-2011, 5:22 PM #13
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Coromandel will never notice. Or a peace offering of chocolate should do the trick.
Three more sons of Richard and Ann, but where are the two daughters?
name: Richard Hilder
baptism/christening date: 21 Nov 1802
baptism/christening place: Suffolk, England
birth date: 14 Oct 1802
father's name: Richard Hilder
mother's name: Ann Challis
name: Henry Hilder
baptism/christening date: 20 Nov 1800
baptism/christening place: Cockfield, Sufolk, England
birth date: 05 Oct 1800
father's name: Richard Hilder
mother's name: Ann Challis Hilder
name: Alfred Hilder
baptism/christening date: 07 Jun 1812
baptism/christening place: Cockfield, Suffolk, England
birth date: 18 Apr 1812
father's name: Richard Hilder
mother's name: Ann Challis Hilder
In 1851, after parents Richard and Ann have died, son Richard is still at Church Farm
1851: HO107 Piece: 1790 Folio: 33 Page: 26 (crown copyright, care of the TNA)
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02-04-2011, 5:28 PM #14
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I guess this marriage fits..
groom's name: Richd. Hilder
bride's name: Anne Challis
marriage date: 22 Nov 1798
marriage place: Parish Of Cockfield, Co. Of Suffolk, England
groom's marital status: Single
bride's marital status: Single
(family search)
Anything in the newspaper Coromandel?
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02-04-2011, 5:30 PM #15MutleyGuest
I thought Mary had died seeing as she is not with Edward in 1881 but....
she seems to have moved farms and is living with the farm bailiff and daughter Helen Joyce. Farmer's wife and Farmer's daughter in the occupation column is crossed through so maybe they had a falling out.
RG11/1832, F.74, P.19 (TNA Copyright)
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02-04-2011, 5:30 PM #16CoromandelGuest
Is there any sign of another child, Edward? The Bury & Norwich Post of Wednesday 12 Oct 1842 carries this poignant announcement of his death the previous Thursday:
'to the inexpressible grief of his parents, after only a few days' illness, aged 2 years and 8 months, Edw. Ridley, son of Mr. Edward Hilder, farmer, of Cockfield.'
Though his life was so brief, he should appear on the 1841 census.
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02-04-2011, 5:40 PM #17MutleyGuest
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02-04-2011, 5:45 PM #18
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I did come across the birth in the indexes earlier and wondered what had happened to him.
Births Mar 1840 Cosford 12 347
Hilder Edward Ridley
I couldn't see Edward Hilder in the 1841 census (I must re-check) but I did come across a Ridley Hilder staying with a Ridly family. I was wondering if Thomas was Mary Ridley's father. Mary does state she was born in Bury St Edmund.
1841: HO107 Piece: 1042 Book/Folio: 17 Page: 27
Low Baxter Street, St James, Bury St Edmund
RIDLY, Thomas, 50, grocer, Suffolk
RIDLY, Charlotte, 20, Suffolk
RIDLY, Alfred, 13, Suffolk
RIDLY, Horace, 8, Suffolk
RIDLY, Frank, 6, Suffolk
FREEBORN, Sarah, 25
HILDER, Ridley, 1, Suffolk
CARTER, Elizabeth, 20
PEARL, Jane, 12
FARROW, Keziah, 14, Suffolk
Edit: That's good Mutley, if you've checked for an Edward then I don't need to re-check.
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02-04-2011, 5:53 PM #19CoromandelGuest
'Tis my own fault for calling myself a nerd in the first place (but I hope the name isn't going to stick! ) Perhaps I need to invent a new name? If we're to be the classic cartoon threesome I should really be a mouse, I suppose.
Originally Posted by olliecat
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02-04-2011, 5:55 PM #20MutleyGuest
I think it is cut and dried that the first Edward 1840 - 1842 died but I am struggling with the 1843 child.
I have found an 1871 census with an Edward Hilder born about 1843 in Cuckfield. He is married to Harriett and they have three children Mary E. 1866, Richard H. 1869 and Edward at 2 months old.
An explanation may be that in the where born column Mary and Richard have...
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