You'll find more about my research of this 'target person' at the Brickwall topic, so I won't go into it here !
Basically, as far the 'Court Records' topic query goes: 'My man' being researched (Richard CLARKE) was apparently a juvenile inmate at Chesterton Union (Cambridge) Workhouse c1840-c1850 and his two summary punishments there for misdemeanors (which may state parents name, or father's whereabouts if the mother is dead??) don't seem to be recorded anywhere - although they are referenced in his later committal papers at Cambridge County Gaol for another offence.
The reason I would like to see something about those 'summary punishments' is that Richard's 1851 committal papers for Cambridge Gaol are absolutely bulging with details about the 19 year old young man - it's a bonus to have a great grandfather with a 'record' when you are doing Fam Hist !! Height, hair, eyes, intelligence, description, read/write, even the tattoo and where ... !
Can anyone give me a lead here, please ... should the records be found where I found the 1851 record of his imprisonment, or were workhouse punishments not recorded there?
And, does anyone have access to the Chesterton Union (Cambridge) Workhouse microfiche for a look-up?
Colin
PS Edits ... the words are "... in prison before ... twice summarily convicted of misconduct in a workhouse".
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27-03-2011, 2:30 PM #1ColinClarke1945Guest
Workhouse Transgressions & Punishment Records
Last edited by ColinClarke1945; 27-03-2011 at 2:34 PM. Reason: Added PS
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27-03-2011, 2:59 PM #2Jan1954Guest
Hello Colin - welcome to Brit-Gen,
Are you a member of the Cambridgeshire Family History Society? If not, I would heartily recommend that you join.
I have ancestors from Cambridgeshire and the Society (and its resources) has been very helpful.
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27-03-2011, 3:10 PM #3ColinClarke1945Guest
Thanks for the Welcome, Jan !
Yes, I'm a member of the CFHS, and have been a correspondent since pen and ink days in the 70s. It is truly a fine organization with lots of friendly people. Ditto, for the Fulbourn Society. As more transcribing has taken place, it has become more helpful to those from 'off'. They do have a fiche I believe, in the Bookstall, but there is no point in me getting a fiche, especially if after all the effort it turns out not to have anything I need.
Cheers,
Colin
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27-03-2011, 3:15 PM #4CoromandelGuest
Hi Colin
The reference to Richard being 'summarily convicted' means that he had appeared before magistrates, who (without a jury) convicted him and decided on the punishment. You may find details of the case in court records (petty sessions). There's a handlist of petty sessions records held at Cambridgeshire Archives. I'm not familiar with the area, so don't know which petty sessional division would be the appropriate one. There seems to be great variation in how much has survived, and for what date, between the various divisions.
There may also have been reports in local newspapers. Without knowing the dates of Richard's offences your best hope is to try online newspapers. You can, for a fee, see nearly 50 titles on the British Library 19th Century Library Newspapers site; many libraries give their users free access to these (and a second batch) via the Gale Cengage site.
Regarding workhouse records, Cambridgeshire Archives should be able to advise you on what records they hold for the Chesterton Union. Alternatively, seek out a copy of the relevant volume of Poor Law Union Records, by Jeremy Gibson et al., for a list of known surviving records. I think Cambridgeshire is in Vol. 1 ('South East England & East Anglia').
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27-03-2011, 3:20 PM #5Jan1954Guest
Absolutely correct and available here.
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27-03-2011, 3:21 PM #6ColinClarke1945Guest
Excellent stuff, Coromandel ! Thanks so much.
Petty Sessions !! That's the difference I had missed. Still don't understand why the actual imprisonment is not shown on the Gaol records - maybe the workhouse villains were not recorded ...
I'll contact CRO - they've been very helpful before via email etc.
Cheers,
Colin
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27-03-2011, 3:56 PM #7
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twice summarily convicted of misconduct in a workhouse
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27-03-2011, 4:12 PM #8
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27-03-2011, 4:22 PM #9CoromandelGuest
I thought the term 'convicted' implied an official charge, not just something dealt with in the workhouse? I certainly have seen newspaper reports of workhouse inmates appearing before magistrates for offences such as tearing up their clothes, refusing to work, smashing windows, and so on.
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27-03-2011, 4:26 PM #10
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On Ancestry, there are two criminal register entries for a Richard Clarke in Cambridgshire. The first with a trial date of 3 Jan 1850. The second with a trial date of 3 Jul 1851. This second one makes reference to a previous offence.
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